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Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Welfare & Criminals

During my discussions in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we discussed her views of providing welfare grants to citizens and other topics related to antisocial behavior of citizens. Here is a transcription of that conversation. Charity: We are here. We manage, we direct, we do all for all humans. Let us do our responsibility. Ralph: Well, now, if we take that to heart, then we would pretty well be able to eliminate all of our welfare departments, Charity: Is that monetary again? Ralph: Well, they are there to give them the monetary support they don’t have so they can pay for food and water and clothing.. Charity: We can understand that aspect. Some humans have more than other humans do. With the avenue of spiritually teaching and spiritual growing another human, you also are going to share your resources, necessary for survival itself. But what we are stating is that you as humans do not need to take, or physically protect, or negate our responsibilities, feel it is your responsibilities. The human population does need their nourishment to sustain their existence. That is fine. You can do that. That’s OK. But when the time has come for the non-existence of the human at that time, we have other avenues of non-existence. Ralph: All right, now, I have met in prison men who killed their babies. They were living on the streets, they were Hippies, drug addicts, the wife was, too, and this baby came along, and they killed it. They then get sent to prison. Charity: Let me stop you. We have a question for you. You have a different facial expression when you are talking regarding drug addicts and hippies and living on the streets, etc. Why does your facial expression change? Your facial expression seems to ourselves as something that you detest. Ralph: Well, they are doing everything that is against my code of how to behave in a civilized society. Charity: So therefore it is your code that you are dictating unto them? Ralph: No, I'm not dictating. I don’t have to approve of what they do. Charity: That’s all we wanted to know. Ralph: If they choose to be there, fine. I don’t have to agree with that. They have other places they could go to that they have chosen not to go to. That’s frequently the fact. It isn’t that they are forced into it. Charity: We were just wondering. Ralph: But they are operating at a suboptimal level of social behavior regarding raising their children. And the children frequently end up being hurt, diseased, and killed. Charity: You were stating just a second ago before we interrupted yourself that human men who are in your prison situation have gone out and killed their babies and then wound up in prison, and you were going to – Ralph: Now, I'm just saying, that if you were to have it the way you would choose to have it, these people would still be killing their babies, and you would be taking care of the Essences of the babies, I mean, you have to anyhow, but would you let that man continue walking around the streets free to kill the next baby that came along? Because that is what he would probably do. Charity: If it was designed for him, on that aspect to do, yes. Ralph: That kind of an idea would create what we call Soft on Crime issue and would certainly be subject for a great deal of criticism. This is an awful man to harm an innocent child, who couldn’t even defend himself. And you’re just going to let him walk free? Charity: Would you not want that human to come back and become a baby that it was going to, that that human body before had destroyed? Ralph: Well this – you don’t care that the man did it, that it’s OK to kill all the babies you want? That is not a good idea. It does not teach him anything about – Charity: You have to remember that everything that a human being learns and does in any of its lifetimes are going to be learned and redone again and either grown or stay the same until they can pass through. Each human has several eons of Life Plans until you have completed your Master Life Plan. Ralph: Here I am saying that this would imply that there is no need for a social control system of any sort. Let everybody do whatever they want. That’s chaos. Charity: You have to remember that you have different scenarios of what you are stating. We are looking at the Essence, you are looking at the human carcass, correct? Ralph: Yes. Charity: If the Essence of that human who had destroyed or killed that other life, that Essence was designed to do it and it carried it out to what had to be done. Then that’s fine. Then it would know that it would either have to be, per your society that you have now, that it knew that it would have to be locked away. That that was the way it was going to teach and learn to have their charge learn. Right? Now, on a different scenario basis, we can see an Essence there that at that time had destroyed that life as it was designed to do, but did it in such a way that it was turning. What could happen at that time is that that human would probably go into what you considered your prison, then something would spiritually happen to that human as it was incarcerated to have a lesson learned to itself, basically to the Essence. That is what it is. And you have the other scenario again which states, goes up to the same part of it, but the Essence is turned. It enjoyed the kill. It was talking to the humans about how it was going to destroy another. It might have been designed to go ahead and destroy two or three more, whatever the case may be. But the Essence is turned. Therefore when that human is caught, or that human could be destroyed by another human, in the same manner, at that time, we could take that Essence up and it would go into my school. Ralph: Now, OK, one thing I left out of this scenario, which I think helps your argument, is that with the people I would see in a big city who are raising children on the street and not doing what I’d consider a proper job of giving them a home, and putting them in danger, we have the criminal justice system and the jails to respond to that. That’s what our culture consists of. OK? The Guardians have put them into this culture, where those jails exist, where those police departments are going to be active. Or the Guardians could have put them into some tribal culture in Africa where there are no jails, and they would behave again according to the customs of that territory. Charity: That’s correct. Ralph: So it’s all right for us to have the jails, as long as the people don’t operate with turned Essences running the jails. Charity: That’s another avenue unto themselves.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Swearing

During conversations in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we discussed the various rules in the Ten Commandments. Here is the transcription of a discussion we had on swearing, taking the Lord’s name in vain. Ralph: Alright, next it says, "Do not use my name for evil purposes. I, the Lord your God, will punish anyone who misuses my name." Now that's commonly said, "Do not state the name of God in vain." Don't use him for swear words. Charity: We don't swear. Ralph: It's saying to the people that people should not swear words, and the common one in conflict with this is when somebody says, "God damn you." That means, "I want God to condemn you to some horrible fate because you have made me unhappy." That's what "goddamn you" comes from. It’s a violation of this commandment. Charity: First of all, The Creator does not, cannot and will not punish any human being. He made human beings to be exactly what they are. And He gave the Essences unto them. Ralph: This is just using His name as an insult. Charity: The Lord seems to ourselves – we don't understand why they use the name "The Lord." The Lord to ourselves does not mean anything, we don't even have a word that means anything close to that. Ralph: Lord is master of any group. Charity: Well, The Creator is not a master. Ralph: Good point, that is what this implies, the master over a group, like the lord over servants. Charity: Oh, no, the human beings are not servants. The human beings are still on this earth to live their lifetimes and to grow and to become Essences so they can take their places. Ralph: The meaning I get of this is like in politics, you have a governor over a state, you have a president over the United States and he has armies and police he can call on, he enforces the laws and if he tells you you have broken the law, he can hire these people to put you in jail. Charity: Again to ourselves, this is another rule that the humans have brought down and put down and "swear words" you say, if you use a swear word with The Creator's name in it, whatever The Creator's name might be. Ralph: Yahweh was the most common one then. Charity: Then therefore, if you do that, it goes against what they want the humans to do, so therefore they put that rule in there. Ralph: When I asked Dave Gotlib some things about Jewish traditions, as he was horn into a Jewish family, one of the things he said was that, in his school, they were forbidden to use any word for God, such as Yahweh, being the most common one they used in the ancient Jewish times. That I think is how far they have gone. They can't even use the name, because it might be used for an evil purpose. Charity: There were, first of all, there is no evil in our definition, in our space, and in our realm, there is no definition, there is no word, so how can The Creator say that if you use The Creator's name wrong, whichever the case would be, then it will be evil when there is no word in our language that states that aspect. Ralph: The only thing that I know for sure that would be talking in opposition to this rule is when you say, "I want God to condemn you because you have done something to hurt me." This is known as "goddamn you." A swear insult. Charity: That again is a revenge mode, is it not? The Creator is not going to dictate a revenge. The Creator only loves. Ralph: This sort of implies that a person could get God to do some damage to this person, which is what we talk about in curses, and black magic, and voodoo. Charity: The Creator is not going to do anything on that avenue. So there is no reason for a human to want The Creator to hurt another human being, that's not going to happen. Ralph: But, in social structures, it's not nice to say those kind of nasty things to your neighbor. Correct? As a social rule, it's not nice to be insulting. You don't like a putdown. Charity: For our sake, why use words that will try and harm a human being, another entity? There is no need for it to come up in intellectual conversation without using anything that might be hurtful to the other ones that are listening. Ralph: That is about what this supports. You aren't supposed to hurt other people's feelings. Charity: Correct.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Stealing

During my conversations in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we covered the Ten Commandments. Here is a transcript of our discussion about stealing. Ralph: Now I do understand a little bit, I remember the history of the Ten Commandments, they had a new city and such being built there and there was chaos and disorder and Moses was their leader and he has to say, "Behave, folks, you know, Basically, here's our constitution for running this place. Don't kill anybody, Don't steal from people, Don't go stealing their wives." Charity: What are the other avenues of these Ten Commandments? You quoted one. Ralph: “You shall not steal” is another one. Charity: Which means? Ralph: Don't take something that they own from somebody. Don't go steal his horse. Charity: Why should that be a commandment from The Creator? Ralph: I'm just telling you it's listed there. Charity: That does not exist. Ralph: If the man has a horse to get around on, if you steal it, he can't get around. That's not right. Charity: But why should one human have something the other human does not have? Ralph: Well, if the other human wants a horse, he should earn the money to buy the horse. Or he should ask to borrow the horse. He shouldn't go and sneak it out in the middle of the night without permission. Charity: What's the difference between stealing per se and taking it without asking? Ralph: Without permission and therefore depriving him of something he rightfully owned in the first place. Charity: But still there is not a commandment as per se or a rule from The Creator in our realm. We don't take something without asking. Why would it therefore be a rule of The Creator when The Creator knows what's – we all have the same aspects as all in our space. Ralph: Excellent point. I'm just bringing it up as another reason why so many people get to CMC and Avenal State Prisons, for stealing things. Charity: That does not equate. Ralph: That's where we get the message that this is a no-no thing to do and The Creator disapproves of it, so therefore we should pass laws against it. Charity: First of all, The Creator would not exercise that rule at all because The Creator knows what we have in Thoughtspace, we're all the same for all of us. Therefore no rule would be passed or created by The Creator to make note of a human aspect. So that is not from The Creator. Ralph: Well, I think you can see it as a reasonable principle for a tribe of people setting up a little town. Charity: That would be a reasonable explanation for another human to put that as a rule, but then use it as stating it, "It's not my rule," as stating the human, but God’s or The Creator's rule. That way it is enforced why that rule was written down. Therefore as you say, it is not The Creator's rule. Ralph: I think you are quite logical about that. I'm just pointing out that was the second one that Moses brought down to his tribe from the mountain top where he said God gave it to him. Charity: As we have said, The Creator created the human population. The Creator is not going to lay down these rules of conduct to the human population. All these are done by the human population to control the population. Ralph: Well, they've been used for that for a long time. Well, the next one beyond that is "Do not desire another man's wife, do not desire his house, his land, his slaves, his cattle, his donkeys or anything else that he owns." Charity: OK Ralph: That's next to "do not steal" – do not want them. So I would think you would have the same reasoning as the "do not steal" issue. You are not there concerning yourself with owning these things. Charity: No, you humans are. Ralph: A good social rule. Charity: Of course, you are going through these somewhat fast. Ralph: I'm just trying to make sure we cover all the items, because those are all laid down as God's rules of conduct and every church goes by these things in what they preach. And then they stand up there and make you feel guilty if you have failed to follow them all. And that is a major control mechanism in our culture. Charity: Again, it is a control feature that you humans have applied to other humans. Ralph: That is what it says, "These are the commandments that the Lord gave to all of you when you were gathered at the mountain when you spoke with a mighty voice from the fire and from the thick clouds, He gave us these commandments and no others." No amendments allowed, I guess. "Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me." Charity: Is that not what – Ralph: There they were, written all out on the stone tablets. Charity: Why would The Creator want to write out something that He delegated to the human population on fixed rules? There are no rules in our realm. Why should The Creator choose to have rules for the human population? Why would He need to change the avenue of the way things are run?

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Prostitution

During 1995, I had many conversations with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. One of them was about her opinions on prostitution. Here is a recording of that discussion. Ralph: Well, ethics we were talking about. That's going to be a biggie. You're concerned about ethics. And I'm concerned about ethics. What are ethics? An example was that movie, “A Little Whorehouse in Texas” last night, which is a typical example of the conflict that goes on. All the laws, all the religions, and the constitution say that prostitution is an evil, bad, illegal, awful thing to do. Yet it has been on earth ever since there have been humans, apparently, as far as our recorded history can tell. It hasn't been abolished by all the laws that have been passed against it. That story was how it fitted into this little town and they didn't mind it in this little town, but the outside do-gooder comes in and says, "Oh, you bad people here, you are breaking the moral code of Texas by allowing this evil institution to exist here." And they threw him out of town. And that is a typical example of the conflicts that occur. So, how do you think about such things? Charity: Regarding what aspects? Ralph: The ethics of prostitution. Do you approve of prostitutes operating? That's the kind of thing people would ask. What do the CIE think about these prostitutes? Charity: What is prostitution? Ralph: Those are women who are selling their sex for money. They will have sexual intercourse with men if they are paid cash for it. Charity: So, it's an occupation, is it not? Ralph: Yes, it's a way of making a living. Charity: OK, so what's the problem? Ralph: What's the problem? Well, I believe there was a book that defined it; it was called “Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex But Never Dared Ask”. His principle was that sex was only right if it's done for procreation or fun. Charity: Who wrote it? Ralph: That was a psychiatrist who wrote this book. Now I thought it made pretty good sense to me. But when it's being done for profit, and therefore also exploitation, it gets into a business, Charity: Exploitation of whom? Ralph: Of the women. Charity: But if the women are doing it for money, making it an occupation, how is it exploitation? Ralph: Well, let me put it this way. From what I know of some prostitutes, they also are exploiting the other direction, because most of them hate men, and this is a way of taking something from men that ordinarily would be given without cash. They are exploiting the men, too. It is a manipulative device in both directions, depending on the attitude of the person. Many of these women don't have any occupation, they don't have any marketable skills, and therefore there is no business they can go to work for, and this they don't need a marketable skill for. They just lie there. Charity: Are they doing it for – see, we don't understand. Ralph: There are different women, of course. Charity: It sounds to us that the Essences that they have have completely turned and are using their charges for complete destruction, for annihilation, or they just don't want to be an Essence anymore. Therefore they have the body doing what it's doing now. Faith has told you that she is in charge of all matters of jobs; by matters of jobs, the Essence also has to be ready and willing to accept the occupation that it is ascribed to by the Guardian. It seems to us that the Essences of these women therefore have turned or are turning or on their last existence with life time to be able to bring them back to school. Ralph: This is a good example of a behavior that has been disapproved of by every legal code that we know of, but, it has been approved of by the people in every culture anyhow, and we have the state of Nevada, next door to us, that has made it legal – you get a license and you're examined, and it’s all done as a legal business. It's the only state in the country that has it as a legal business. And you have places in Holland where they have blocks where these ladies have their apartments, and you can come in and have sex with them for money. It's part of the business of the city. So you have the universal, let's let 'em lie, but we'll still make it a bad thing officially. It's a good example of one of the hypocracies of our world. Charity: Called a two way sword? Ralph: Everybody rails against it, but you have some of our better leaders going out and using these prostitutes for one purpose or another, for themselves or to entertain visiting businessmen. We just had a recent trial with Heidi Fleiss in Hollywood who was doing this with visiting businessmen that had a lot of money. Charity: They did not feel comfortable with the mate that they were proscribed with? Ralph: No, it's more like entertainment when they are visiting a foreign country. In many countries, like Japan, this is a custom that they want a woman to go to bed with when they visit the United States or England or Germany. This is part of what they consider entertainment, like going out to the opera for some other people. Charity: But for humans that is not entertainment. Entertainment per se as we understand it, it sounds to us that they were trying to get hold of something to satisfy the innate urges that The Creator has instilled into all humans. Ralph: Well that's part of it, but I think many people like having some nice person of the opposite sex to be with and talk with, to enjoy the company of when they are in a strange town. Charity: If that is the correct terminology, they are not – in the terms of the mate situation, it is still the correct term for the mate at home, for they are still mated. The ones who come to another country and enjoy the company of another one of your species, then they therefore are not mates because they are not mated. Ralph: It is a one time thing. Charity: But what you had just stated to us was that they go out and enjoy the company and that's it. Ralph: Mostly, what I've heard, not having done it myself; a lot of people who hire prostitutes for an evening of company are not looking for the sexual activity as the primary goal. They are lonely, and these prostitutes learn to be sociable and entertaining, and they talk a lot. That's what they are really appreciated for. The sex is the ticket to get in the door. They will have sex at the end of the evening. But many guys, I understand, that hire them, are lonely people who haven't got many social skills and don't have any girlfriends to take out, and they don't have a wife. So that is the local people. The visiting ones, when they are out of town and their relatives aren't going to know about it at home, can pretty well pretend they are single. A lot of men do this. I've seen them in the AF; pilots did it frequently going to other countries for training. Pilots were unique in this, I understand. They could simply dissociate themselves from the family at home. They weren't criticizing the family at home. In their minds, they didn't have a family at home. When they landed there, there was no family at home. Some set up a whole new family in the other country. They married another woman and had children in another home for six months there and back for six months at their home country. They dissociated between the two. There were some men who were able to do that, and it was a major problem for the AF, for the wives at home got very upset. Those are different ways of it happening. All of that is considered BAD when you have sex outside of your marriage partner. Charity: Because of the physical act, then that is considered bad. Ralph: That makes it bad, yes. You can socialize, and they won't consider it bad. Charity: But if you go to the point of coming to wherever you are, in the company of someone of the opposite gender, to converse, to talk to, to enjoy a movie, or whatever, that is accepted. Ralph: That is moral, yes. Charity: But to have sex, to bring it one step farther, then that is not appropriate. Ralph: Correct. That's the code. Charity: That makes no sense to ourselves. Ralph: Well, that is why I am bringing it up. Charity: So, if, for instance, with you talking to Marie, then you are in the acceptable standard. Therefore there should not be any, by any other humans observing the situation, they would know there is nothing else that goes further, correct? Ralph: Well, if they don't see anything gross, like if we do not go into an apartment and stay there overnight and come out the next morning after breakfast, if we do that, then anyone would assume that we were doing something immoral. Because we could have. Charity: But if nothing had happened at that time, why would the assumptions be made that they would do that? Ralph: That's humans. They will assume that they were made. Then you must defend yourself against that. Charity: Why would that be necessary? Ralph: If you came before a judge or referee, such as in a divorce court. "Did he or did he not have sex with that person he spent all night with?" Charity: But that's not an issue if nothing happened. You might have come over as a friend. Ralph: True, and slept on the floor. Charity: And needed to do such things, Ralph: You are right, but, humans will assume the likelihood, the probability that two people in an apartment with one bedroom all night long will have had sex. That is going to he an automatic assumption of 95% of people who face that situation. Charity: The assumptions are inadequate, inconsistent. The only way that the assumptions – no assumptions can ever be validated. The only way that anyone could know what had happened behind closed doors would be the individuals there or, if they advertised it. Ralph: Or had a videotape. Charity: Right, but if humans find it necessary to assume things that they do not have access to that will make their assumptions correct when no assumptions can be correct. Ralph: There are principles that have been decided by judges on these matters. They talk about what the reasonable man, or the average person would think of in these situations. Now these are hypothetical, average person, a person who doesn't exist. This is lawyer talk. You have to understand lawyers make up meanings of words to suit their purposes. But this is what we face. And they would say that the odds are over 50% that if two people of opposite sex spend all night long in an apartment, that they had sex. That over half of them would have had sex. A reasonable man would assume that, and it would be true. That means you count up 100 people and 51 of them had sex under those conditions. Charity: What do they do with the other percent? Ralph: I'm just telling you what they talk like. I'm not debating your point. This is what we are faced with in our society. In the present world, this gets into politicians running for office, and the newspapers reporting about the girlfriends they had 20 years ago. You have one going right now with Mr. Gingrich, who is the head of Congress, and they are now coming up and they are saying that during his first marriage, he had sex with a campaign worker one time. You are talking about 25 years ago. Therefore – nobody says that is true or not, but they claim that probably happened. And therefore they are all concerned about the appearance of impropriety, of a sinful act. And this is the culture of the day, now. The newspaper people are looking for the appearance of an unsavory behavior that can besmirch this man's reputation. You didn't have to have done it, but if you went behind closed doors, with a female and was there longer than an hour, someone is going to think that he must have had sex with her during that hour. And that is the appearance of evil. We have gotten to that point. This is not a healthy development, but I'm letting you know that is what we have gotten in our culture by now. So the business of ethics is a two edged sword because there is nobody on earth that can't be caught on an appearance of an undesirable act when you use the kind of standards that I mention. And we are at the point where you don't dare touch a female of the opposite sex or go behind a closed door with them. Because then the appearance of impropriety will be brought up, and you can't even have that if you are going to run for public office. Charity: Any human can become involved in a situation like that. Ralph: That's exactly true. That is why you aren't getting very good people running for public office because the smart ones don't, those with any ability; why should they waste their time? You can't defend yourself; there's no way you can prove you didn't do something. Charity: Correct. Ralph: And that's what they're asking. Prove you didn't do something immoral when you two were behind that closed door. Charity: You can't prove anything because it's going to be impossible to disprove it. Ralph: Correct. In the past, its been up to the accuser to prove something happened behind that closed door. Charity: Is there not a law in your justice system that states you are innocent until proven guilty? Ralph: What about these big ethical issues of the day? Prostitution you mentioned already, with women selling their sex for money, and you don't get all up in arms about it. I thought that would be something that you would think would be a generally poor use of their bodies. Charity: They are not hurting themselves. Why should we be concerned? Ralph: Because, again, of one of the rules of God, as pronounced by the churches. Charity: Did you happen to bring the book so we could finish up? Ralph: I'm sorry. I don't know where it is. You are not supposed to have sex for any purpose but for having children. That is very clear in the Catholic church at least. You cannot even have fun. I mentioned that. The Catholic Church would never approve of that, you are not supposed to have fun that way. Charity: The Creator made the human being to have, as we understand, a drive, so how can you, as a human, keep that drive from not occupying and not being used and discharged'? Ralph: The Catholic church has said, "You should stay away from all women and only live with men if you are a man." That is what the priests do. Then they start molesting little boys and acting homosexually. So I don't think it works out too well. Charity: So what we understand is that it is a rule of the Church or the religious function to put this onto human beings to make them perfect unto the sight of The Creator, correct? Ralph: Yes, the results are in the quotations in the book on The Origin of Satan, that the idea of being pure spiritually included castration, of all things, so they couldn't have sex or babies. They cut it off. That was supposed to make them even purer. Some of these great theologians did that. Charity: If that is supposed to have made them purer, then they would not have been born into a male or female species. Ralph: We only have those two choices. Charity: You have what we are. Ralph: These are the only two choices we've got. Charity: Or they would not have been born. Therefore no aspect of a human is perfect, nothing. Ralph: OK. Charity: So why try to be something or attain something that is totally unobtainable? Ralph: Because that makes you like Christ. I think that would be the card that they would use. Charity: And Christ was supposed to have been the son of The Creator Ralph: Because he never had sex with anyone all his life.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on the Sabbath

When I had conversations in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we covered the Biblical injunction to keep holy the Sabbath, Sunday in our calendar. Here is the transcript of that discussion. Ralph: One , two, three, four, "There is no god but me, make no graven images, don't use the Lord's name in vain”. Then "observe the Sabbath and keep it holy as I, the Lord your God, has commanded you. You have six days in which to do your work, on the Seventh day is a day of rest dedicated to me. On that day, no one is to work, neither you, your children, your slaves, your animals, or the foreigners who live in your country. The slaves must rest, just as you do. Remember, you were slaves in Egypt and I, the Lord your god, rescued you by my great power and strength. That is why I command you to observe the Sabbath." Charity: The Creator does not rest. We do not rest. Ralph: That's what the story says. He rested on the Seventh day after creating the world. Charity: Why would the Creator need to do that? The Creator is not human. The Creator is energy. Why should The Creator be tired? Ralph: I'm just telling you what the story said. Charity: It makes no sense to ourselves, because The Creator is pure energy. The Creator cannot become tired. The Creator is not a human being. The Creator is energy, pure and simple, and is the creator of ourselves. Ralph: I think I could see a few other flaws in that, too. You don't have days of the week there. Charity: No. Ralph: So therefore, without time concept, you have no reason for seven days to go past anyway. Charity: No. Ralph: You wouldn't know when the Sabbath was. Charity: No, we wouldn't know on what day the Creator was supposed to start creating. Ralph: We do have some conflict there – which day is the Sabbath, anyhow? Some say it is Sunday and some say it is Saturday. Charity: Do not some say it is Friday, also? Ralph: The Jews start Friday and go through Sunday. I'm sure you have some somewhere who call it Tuesday, if they want to. Charity: As we state, first and foremost, The Creator is not going to know it. We don't have time for that. I think that pretty well answers that avenue. Ralph: So it doesn't make any sense to take a day off to rest? Charity: The Creator does not need rest. Ralph: But the humans do; they do better that way. Charity: Right, therefore that is why they are stating that avenue. It's their rule. Ralph: A good social rule. Charity: Of course. But don't you not have priests and men who lead the worship who work on those days. Ralph: I lived with one, remember. Charity: Right. Ralph: His biggest day was Sunday, and I was told he couldn't work on Sunday. Because of that rule, I didn't. Charity: The rule is not followed, is it not? Ralph: Believe it or not, while at home, I did not see the contradiction. I feel awfully stupid for not having seen that, but I lived under the injunction that I was not allowed to work at any job I had on Sundays, and I met that restriction when I got my first job in the ice cream store where the biggest day was Sunday when everybody had visitors over and wanted ice cream. They would come down to the store on Sunday afternoon to get the ice cream for Sunday night. And I had a heck of a time saying, "Should I go to work?" Fortunately my uncle was visiting and he said, "Go to work!" He was a preacher, so I got sanctioned, but that nearly ruined my entry into the workforce. Charity: The Creator does not need you to be tired. Ralph: But my father was busy, busy, all day Sunday. Charity: So therefore it is not really being followed. Ralph: Anyhow, it's here. Charity: So it's another human made rule.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Healing by Faith

When I had discussions in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we covered the idea of physical healing because of faith that God would heal us. This is the transcript of that conversation. Ralph: Oral Roberts was on this program. Charity: Oh, we know. Ralph: He got started when he had TB when he was a teenager. He had been a trouble maker and a ne’er-do-well apparently before that. He was not doing according to what his family wanted him to do. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Everybody else got TB and died. He got TB and I think it made a great impact on him, that everybody had died just before he did. So I think he was afraid of dying. Charity: Of course. Ralph: But he felt that he had faith in God at that moment. Because he had faith in God, who then could heal him, is why he got well. They make a point of this over and over again that – and the Christian Scientists do this all the time – if you have enough faith in God, God will heal you. When you don’t get healed, it’s your fault for not having enough faith. That’s the way they look at it. Charity: What we are stating on that aspect is first of all, if it is in your Life Plan to get well, you will get well. Period. Your Essence will take care of it. Ralph: You are very clear about that. And if you have faith in God while this is happening? Charity: You have faith in it? Ralph: I’m not sure what that means, you see? Charity: What we think they were stating is that if you have enough belief in something in The Creator to bring about a physical well being, that it will bring about a physical well being. If you have enough belief. But if you don’t believe strongly enough, therefore you as a human have failed. Therefore you have a concept that you as a human must have enough faith – if you do not have enough belief system, then you are not going to get well. If you do not get well, you did not have a strong enough belief system. Why do you humans choose to do that? Ralph: I'm taking from you that that is not a correct interpretation as to why people get well. Charity: No. Ralph: You have said that already, I'm just pointing it out. Having enough faith in God is not going to create the cure. Charity: Correct. Ralph: If your plan is to get sick and die. Charity: Correct. Ralph: OK. All right. They also had some comments there about people who are spiritual getting sick less often than people who are not spiritual. Charity: That is a falsehood. Ralph: Well, what is the point in being spiritual if it’s not going to keep you alive longer? Charity: Are you spiritual? Ralph: I don’t know. I think so. I'm not sick. See, that proves it. Charity: Again, that’s what the humans do to each human. It’s not the humans’ design to try – what the humans are trying to do is try to show that other humans are below what they are in a belief system. They are showing a fallacy in what other humans believe. If they don’t get well, or believe strong enough that they are going to get well, then they don’t meet the high standards of what the other humans have done. So they are in an innate guilt system that they do to other humans.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Resurrection

During 1995, I had many conversations with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. Below is one regarding what might happen at the time of the resurrection of all Christians. Charity: We are most happy but not around any religion. Ralph: This is a little point that we could debate with the Christians on the resurrection of all believers at some point in the future when Christ will arise from the dead and all of them will arise. Who wants to resurrect these bodies that are causing all these troubles? Why should that be a great glorious advantage? Charity: As we have stated many times over, which body? Ralph: Why have any of them? They are all defective in the first place. Charity: That is correct. Why would anyone want them? Ralph: Why would that be a great and glorious goal? I don’t get it. Charity: We don’t understand that avenue either. Somehow when they designed writing the book, someone had to come up with that avenue. Why a physical joyous reunion with a physical body that brought them joy, but every human can testify that the body is not joyous in itself? Ralph: It has to fall apart, or they wouldn’t have died. I don’t see how it ever got to be such a wonderful goal. Charity: As we once stated, it was written in the book that should tell humans the basic avenue of that.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Respecting Parents

During my conversations in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we discussed the Ten Commandments. Here is one regarding the injunction to respect one’s parents. Ralph: The next one is "Respect your father and your mother, as I the Lord your God command you so that all may go well with you and so that you may live a long time in the land that I am giving you." Charity: Why would The Creator want to say that? Ralph: I think it's a nice idea to respect your father and your mother. We've talked about that recently. Charity: Right, but that's just as a child who is growing up, and when you are as a child when you grow up, everything that you are learning culture-wise, and value-wise, and so forth is by the avenue of your parents, as the Guardian has picked out. Correct? Ralph: Yes. Charity: Therefore it has molded you into the human being that you need to be to start listening to your Essence. So this is another rule again that the humans have laid down onto the human race stating that you need to listen to your father and your mother. The Creator does not care if you listen to your father and your mother. He does not have a father and a mother. He is The Creator! The Creator, again, is not human. The Creator is energy. Ralph: Well, again, it's a good rule. Charity: Of course, it's a good rule. Ralph: But of course there are children who have no father or mother, who are orphaned, so how could they ever follow that rule? Charity: They can't. Ralph: They'd be in violation of it. Charity: Of course. Ralph: They'd be bad people. Charity: Of course. Ralph: You can't have that. Anyhow it is a cultural guidance rule, but it isn't anything that The Creator would have put down if he was making all these up Himself.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Prayer

In 1995 I had a series of conversations with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. This is one regarding the usefulness of prayer. Ralph: We are now at 12-15-95 with Charity talking about the TV program "Miracles and the Extraordinary." All right now, these are questions that came to mind. I just want them on record. They talked in this program with one priest, Marianne Williamson, another preacher and a doctor, and they all seemed to agree that there was a power of prayer to help heal people. Now you are laughing already, which indicates that you don’t agree with them. Is that correct? Charity: Correct. Ralph: Well, we will drop that subject. Then we go on to why should so many people believe in a power of prayer if something hasn’t been demonstrated by experience? Charity: The avenue is that you have humans that are in a group that is praying for another human being who is ill, but the avenue is designed for that human being, their charge, to exist or to become well. This will happen no matter what. We have a question for you. What is prayer? Ralph: Well, I think that is usually defined as a spoken or non spoken thought directed towards a higher power, usually God, asking for some particular intervention in human life. Charity: First of all, humans don’t need to do that. The Essences already know what needs to happen. Ralph: Well, our religions have taught us we need to do that. Charity: So by prayer, it is a request? Ralph: That is one type of prayer, yes. A prayer may also be a praise and a thank you. Charity: Why do they call it a prayer instead of a request? What is the difference? Ralph: A prayer is always devoted to a god. I say "a god" because you can have cultures with many gods. Charity: Correct. Ralph: It is not to another person that a request would ordinarily be. It is a request in a prayerful way to somebody who doesn’t physically exist. Charity: A reverent request? Ralph: Yes, a reverent request, to a non physical being. Charity: We understand. So it is a request for an interaction of a higher level of existence, as in our realm. Ralph: Yes. Charity: Correct? Ralph: Yes, and the other questions they ask there is "can God refuse to answer a prayer and give a NO answer instead of a YES answer?" Charity: Well first of all we have again that the Essences know what needs to happen. Just like with knowing what is going to happen with your Life Plan. We had stated to you that you would cease. Ralph: I would cease? You certainly did that get that message over, yes, I remember that. Charity: What happened – Michael went in and talked to The Creator. It was deemed that it was not an appropriate time and things would continue on the way it was supposed to continue on. That was an instant where we have now a different time. Correct? Ralph: So we could say – I remember what happened there in that I didn’t make a prayer to anybody about that. Charity: No, you asked Michael. Ralph: It was my attitude was not one of emotions or – it was more a comment that it would seem to be a waste of my efforts and abilities to shorten it, to cease at that point. I think I could be of more use after that, too. I had something more to offer. But I wasn’t asking to be relieved of that problem. I didn’t even think I could ask to be relieved of that problem. It wasn’t anything I felt I had any charge over. If it was going to be, it was going to be. Charity: But Michael came up to ourselves, and we had a discussion on the matter. Ralph: So therefore that would – Charity: Just as you remember. Ralph: Right, so that would be equivalent to the purpose people might have. So who could say that when there is something that does change what the pattern has been made out to be, that the Essence has done the appeal, shall we say? Charity: Correct, they can also be denied. Ralph: With all the factors. Charity: Just as Becky has been denied. Ralph: I heard that on the phone once, about a husband, yes. Charity: Yes. Ralph: All right so, but we have, actually we have a problem, in our studies of these things, we do all kinds of studies of associations between this event and that event. There are more of these and more of these in the same group at the same time, but everybody jumps to a conclusion that one is causing the other. Charity: Which it is not. Ralph: Now it may be causing it in some indirect way through six other connections, but we don’t know that. Or they both can be caused by the same phase of the moon or something external to both of them. But that is a human frailty in logic. Now they made also a great deal of to-do about the faith of the sick person helping them get healed. It was a common comment. Charity: We don’t understand that. Ralph: Exactly, I'm sure you don’t understand it because I don’t understand it. Now, does the Creator answer prayers yes or no? Well, we have already said it doesn’t work that way. Except that it can go up through the Essence making an appeal like you mentioned. But we are not aware of that as a conscious prayer that we are saying in public. Charity: Why do you humans have to make requests? Why is it important to voice a request? Why? Ralph: Well we do it at the Rotary club every noon, as part of the ritual at every meeting. Basically it is a thank you for having this wonderful food and this lovely place and we appreciate God for having given us this opportunity to be with our friends. Charity: So that basically is thanking everybody for what has been done, correct? Ralph: Yes. We are not asking for something with that. We are simply thanking them for having us. Charity: Why are you humans beings into always having to ask something for themselves? Ralph: I'm just saying, that’s only one type of prayer, the kind we have in Rotary Clubs is the thank you prayer. Charity: But most requests are they not, asking for something? Ralph: If you are sick, you want to get well. So you pray to God to do some miracle to you to get you well. That is the rather human appeal. Charity: Then you also have the humans who have a request to cease -- to cease to exist, correct? Ralph: I'm sure some who have a terminal illness and are in pain will do that, yes. Charity: Becky’s charge, one of the false fronts, used to always do the request that she be taken away from the pain. Then you have "help me deal with this child." Ralph: Or get us a new husband. Charity: Or help us lose weight. Let us as a human look better. Let us as a human make more monetary gains. Ralph: I heard a good one. He was in some kind of difficult jam, where his life was at stake, and he said, "God, if you will get me out of this jam, I will stop smoking." He got out of the jam and he has never smoked again because he was so thankful to God. That is a very common – this is a common type of human behavior. Charity: Again, why is it that the humans think that the Creator is concerned on the avenues about – the Creator has designed your plan and the plan is for the Essence to be involved first and then to go to move up, as you state, the chain of command. Ralph: They pay full attention to that one person. Because The Creator has to look after everything. Charity: The Creator is there, to be the planner and director Ralph: There is good delegation of authority. To give you the power and authority to do the job. And He has designed that system quite well. Charity: The Creator does not create chaos. Ralph: Well, unfortunately we were not aware until recently that you were there available for such direct intervention, so they have all had, we had the two messages, one the shamans had that you go directly up to The Creator, or to your spirit guides or whatever format that tribe and that culture had that were other names for you. Or you could go to the church where they would say, "We have a God we approve or, Yahweh, or Mohammed, or Buddha, or whichever, and if you do these little rituals, he will listen to you. If you don’t do these rituals as prescribed, he won’t pay attention to you." Now that exerts control as to who gets there. Which is always in church. Why would a church exist if they didn’t have control? They would have no purpose in being there if they couldn’t moderate these contacts with God. Charity: Correct. Ralph: "The reality of this presence is experienced most profoundly through the state of prayer known as contemplation." [Here Becky, Marie’s ISH, replaces Charity.] Becky: That is not incorrect. It’s an avenue, it is basically how we operate, which is intuition. Ralph: Well, I think contemplation is a more neutral term. Becky: Contemplation is when you are sitting back Ralph: Being reflective. Becky: Correct Ralph: We knew that when we are trying to come up with answers to big problems. Becky: And did you not state that prayer is basically asking or reflecting inside or asking for something on a higher plane to help you with the problem? Ralph: I think that depends on how you are trained in it by your church. Obviously some churches lead you to believe you can pray miracles into existence, if all you get together in a prayer circle and heal somebody. We have heard about those, right? Becky: Of course, many times. Ralph: And then you have others, like Thanksgiving Dinner, when we are praying to thank God for having us still alive at Thanksgiving, which is what the Pilgrims were doing that day. So that’s a little more neutral, but sure we have been taught that we can appeal to ask for something that is not likely to occur. Becky: Correct.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Population Control

In my conversations with Charity, a Spiritual Professor CIE and my mentor, in 1995, we discussed how our Earth’s population could be contained within reasonable boundaries if everyone followed their Life Plans. That would mean they did not live more lifetimes than they absolutely needed, so they would not waste the world’s resources during those extra lifetimes. Charity: The population of the universe, of your globe, at this time has reached the maximum it needs to reach. We need to, as you would quote, you used a term that was very interesting, "recycle." We need to keep recycling. Humans have chosen to make your live plans longer than what is necessary. We would like to see you be able to cut down to a hundred lifetimes before your life is completed. When you have learned your Master Life Plan, you can go on. Right now it is stretching – an average life span of about 1000 to 1500 years in you life terms. Enough is enough. Ralph: Just looking at it statistically, if one Essence lived one-third less lifetimes on earth, which would be appropriate if they learned faster, then they would be saving on one-third of the pollution, and filling up of space of the world without any loss of life quality, or loss of resources. They don't need that other one-third if they would go through, instead of 5,000, they got through in 3,000 lifetimes. Charity: Correct. Ralph: And we could save another 2,000 people having to fill up buildings that we would have to build more and have to fell more trees. Charity: Correct. Ralph: So that would be a great and harmless improvement in the problem of excessive birthrate, which we now need to populate for those Essences. Charity: What is happening is that you have the increased births in humans, but it is now turning in as one part of your hemisphere could only have all girls, mostly, and another part of your atmosphere, your hemisphere, has all boys. It's going to make it very difficult for that hemisphere to keep reproducing to what we need. And also with the other hemisphere. It's becoming lopsided. Enough is enough. Let's bring back the knowledge that you humans need to grow and mature spiritually along with your intellectual aspects and qualities. But you have to realize that each one has to take care of each. You are not separate and alone on your own "plot of land." It's an inconsistent ideology. It needs to be stopped. Man has been the tool to have your globe be what it is. But with too many existent human bodies on to it, parts of the globe are becoming destroyed or invaded. That is why the design of it now is to let humans know that they are not alone. That there is a design, that there is a plan, and how they fit into that plan. And by understanding how they fit into that plan, is to understand how we operate. Ralph: Just one question, having these more mature Emotional Selves growing and becoming Essences, are we still going to be fragmenting off new ones that will be very junior, immature, or are we going to work with the rest of the ones we have now? Charity: You will have Essences being – you will have fragments breaking off, but it will not be the part where they have to start as newborn or baby Essences. That will not happen. You will have – the human population will be at a steady rate for the maturity-wise. They will be at that rate for as long as The Creator has deemed for it to happen.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Manipulation of Humans by the CIE

During 1995, I had many discussions with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. During one of them we discussed how she is so good at manipulating me to do what she wants me to do. Here is a transcription of that conversation. Ralph: You may use something exciting for the purpose of teaching humans. Charity: Correct. Ralph: But you don’t need it just for the purpose of entertaining yourself. Charity: No. Ralph: That is a human characteristic, to entertain yourself. Charity: We don’t need entertainment. We are most busy with our humans. You could state that humans might call it puppet masters? We pull strings. Ralph: Puppeteers. Charity: Pull strings. Ralph: Puppeteers is the terms, those who manage puppets. Charity: Manipulators. Ralph: Yes. Charity: We do not manipulate, we – Ralph: Well, having been a subject of this manipulation, no, it is not done with a force that moves the human. It is done by taking advantage of the tools that are within the human, like sitting in and driving a car. You know where the key goes so you stick the key in there, and you know if you turn the key, then the motor will start. You know which pedals will work to get the car going backwards and forwards. So you use those pedals. You are not manipulating the car; you are using the tools that are built into it. So you know what pushes me, what issues I've got. You know where you can push and pull. So, in that way you are simply using your extensive knowledge of our inner mechanisms. You know if you push this, and this, he will get over there. Charity: Correct. Ralph: He has to get over there when these things are operating. Charity: And now you have learned to just go with the flow. Ralph: Now all I need is the mental urge and I need a shortcut. I’m not wasting anymore time with this, you know. I know you are going to win this little struggle anyhow if I want to fight with you. Charity: Once this had happened and you knew you could write, and you could, and you knew that you were not going to do it by yourself, then you knew that we were still here, then you felt most comfortable. Then the next item was for yourself to contact Michael instead of acting, but to practice and to know. Once you have done that, the next step for yourself was for you to recognize what your mate was like – what your boundaries were – what your existence was about. That was about the conversations with Hope about your union with your mate. That was a steady manipulation on our part. To have you understand what was going on, but to only give you enough that you could digest safely without a complete overload, as that was most important. With all that avenue, then our next realm was to get Becky’s charge moving. Once we got her in the spot she needed to be and moved, and everyone else, all the other humans that were ready, which was Michael, Cathy, Skip, and Dan. Gene were ready; we had already maneuvered them to where they needed to be. But yours was the most difficult manipulation we had to move. We had to get you away from the institution, which was very important. That was easy compared to the difficulty that you had regarding always finding the appropriate time when your mate was in a decent, calm frame of mind to be able to discuss any matter. But your mate was never there. And with yourself constantly in fear, we had to feed the information through her for you to hear, for you then to act. Ralph: And you understand, in my family, breaking up a marriage is not a common easy thing to do, a major default. Charity: And the reason that you did not receive the award last year was that we had to use it for this year. Ralph: Well, I still wonder how that happened. Charity: You will never know. Ralph: Why should I never know? They all know. Charity: We will never let you know. By using the award this time as a catalyst to make you move, was what we needed. If you did not have that, you would not have left, and everything would have begun to disintegrate. And we were not going to let that happen. Ralph: My question is, now that it has been done, why can’t I know the history? It won’t reverse the history. Charity: You will not know. It is not important. Ralph: I agree it is not important, but it sure is interesting to know. Charity: It is not important, therefore you will not know. Ralph: I don’t want to blame people if they didn’t have anything to do with it, OK? Charity: You aren’t living by the principles. Ralph: I can’t blame anybody. I don’t know what happened. Charity: That’s correct, you will not. Ralph: If you maneuvered it, they didn’t know what was going on anyhow. Charity: Correct. Ralph: They just blurted out something and "Did I say that?" I imagine that’s the kind of thing that happens. Charity: Well, on the avenue of making you move, that was the catalyst that we needed. Once the catalyst happened, you were able to go. Once you went, you realized you had friends around yourself. You had Gene then who helped move you. He did not need to help you. Everything was in place to bring you up to this point. Ralph: Any other tidbits that I don’t understand? Charity: Any other questions? Ralph: Any other people that were involved? Charity: You will find them, you will see them.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Lying

During 1995, I had many conversations with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. Among them were talks about the Ten Commandments. Here is one exchange we had regrading the commandment, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” [Exodus 20:16] Ralph: So let's go to the next one. "Do not steal" We've already covered that. You don't have objects up there to own, so again you have no concern about stealing. Here again this is a social rule that is better if they do follow it, but their Essences will be there and if you have turned Essences, they are going to steal. Alright, here is another one we didn't cover. "Do not accuse anyone falsely." Charity: Is that not lying? Ralph: Basically, it would be like in a court action, in a trial, like when Danny went to court for his molestation charges. The witnesses against him should always tell the truth. Charity: Well, that is an avenue that we most definitely work to help the humans to always do. That's the Essence that is involved in that avenue. Ralph: Well, this one is the reverse of telling the truth. Basically, don't go and make accusations that are false about somebody to try to get them into trouble. Which is a good social rule. Charity: Of course. Ralph: Whether or not it is something The Creator would have laid down is another issue. Charity: As we have said, The Creator created the human population. The Creator is not going to lay down these rules of conduct to the human population. All these are done by the human population to control the population.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Faith's Views on Light & Energy

During my discussions with the CIE in 1995, I had one with Faith, a Spiritual Guardian CIE, about the various types of energy they are and work with. This is a transcription of our conversation about light and energy. Ralph: Faith is here to explain how she is different in energy operations – it's something we try to use physical words for a non-physical experience, and that's very difficult. Faith: First of all, we have to remember the CIE are energy, pure and simple. The Essences are not. The Essences have had physical bodies. They have lived and reacted with other human beings, which we have not. So our energy level is mostly constant. In fact, it is constant. But the process of making it constant is that the humans we have been in contact with or that we talk to who are involved with our Essences that we are in charge with, if we come into contact with too many of the turned Essences, then we have to shift some of our energy focus unto them. Just like, as Becky was explaining it to you, regarding the energy level situation, I can feed as much energy as she could possibly want to keep her at a certain level. Ralph: Now let me just try to understand the terms again. I'm having to be careful with the English language, because it is based on physical concepts and we are using physically defined words - Faith: Wait a minute, I think we know what you are going to say. OK, if you want to define what Becky's energy would be like, it would be like this leaf. That would be Becky's energy level. Our energy level would be those four trees in a line, with all those leaves. Ralph: Let me back up, it's not exactly what I meant. I'm well aware that just the term energy is not adequate for this because there are at least two kinds of energy, I'm taking this from physics, and light, and what I read recently on the physics of light, and this is why I want to make sure we are using the right terms by a certain definition. Faith: OK, alright. Ralph: In physics, energy is never destroyable. Faith: Correct Ralph: It is only convertible into another form. Now, if I am to pick this stick up, I use energy to pick this up off the ground, because gravity is a type of energy that is pulling it toward the ground. If I drop it, energy is going to apply to it and be called gravity. There is an attraction between all objects. There is an attraction between the object called Earth and this twig. Faith: Right. Ralph: And the reason why this body stands on this earth instead of floating around is because gravity is the attracting force, energy between this small body and this big body called the Earth. Alright, now that kind of energy is considered to be constant, as far as the total supply is concerned, but my muscular energy could be transformed into gravity energy by dropping the twig. Now, in that book on light, it is quite clear that the energy that you are talking about in mental operations and in Thoughtspace is not the same as the energy that I have to use to pick up the twig or to walk my body around the streets. That is why I say, that is convertible and Einstein made the formula of conversion between mass and energy. Now, that, we are talking about again energy in the Thoughtspace realm, I will have to make an assumption as a question. Can it be transformed into anything else? Faith: What are you stating by conversion into something else? Ralph: This twig itself can be burned with a match, and that will transform the energy holding the molecules together; they will be freed, and, by the heat applied to it, we transform that into heat energy and light energy. Faith: Right. Ralph: Now, we understand that in physics, and that is all part of the way the physical world is put together. Now I hesitate to use that concept of energy in talking about you in Thoughtspace. That's my problem. As I suspect it does not operate the same way. Faith: No. It does not. Ralph: And I might need to have some – Faith: The terms you would understand would be the energy you were talking about, but that's not our energy. Ralph: So it's an energy of a different quality. Faith: Totally. Ralph: That's where I get confused about declining energy or increasing energy because the energy of the physical world is only transferable. It's not declinable. The total volume is static, and they have done studies all over the universe showing that which we have has been here all the time and has been converted to different shapes and sizes. Faith: Thoughtspace is not that avenue. Ralph: That's what I'm saying, trying to put it into words to describe it creates a problem to me. Faith: Your energy is converted energy and nonconverted energy – place those two together and that is our energy. Plus more. But there is not a term or a phrase that there is in your language that can explain that situation to you. Ralph: I'm aware of that, that's why I'm mentioning this that I don't want people to misunderstand when we use the word energy. The energy that we are converting is not in your area. Faith: No. Energy in Thoughtspace is totally different than the energy level in the physical realm. That's why we are trying to give a “for instance” of the way the energy is. Becky would be a leaf. I myself would be four trees with all their leaves together. Hope would be twice as many. And Charity would take them all. Ralph: The whole forest. Faith: Right. And lots more. Ralph: I'm just saying that – Faith: By myself feeding that one leaf with my four trees with all of their leaves, would be depleting my reserves that I have. Especially when I am feeding it to one Essence. Ralph: When you have 150 to look after and all of them have troubles. Faith: That's right. By those four trees, I'm going to wear very thin on leaves. So by wearing very thin on my leaves, I must call on Hope for help, "We need to do something about replenishing my trees, here. I'm running very, very low. How about replenishing?" Hope will say, "No problem, let's get everything under control and you guys come up here for a while. We will send somebody else down there that's got a little bit more trees than you do that doesn't need as many leaves right now, and they can take over for you." We say, "That's fine," and we go away. When we come back, my four trees are back, my leaves are back on the branches and I'm ready to start again. Ralph: It's like in a bank, you build up your account with a transfusion of money from the central bank in Philadelphia or somewhere. Faith: Right Ralph: We are doing that all the time. Faith: What I am stating on human terms it's about the best I can describe it. Ralph: The question I have then in that energy, is there a fixed amount that is in the universe, like we say a fixed amount of physical energy is on this globe? Faith: A fixed amount of energy – No. It is not a fixed amount. Ours is a never ending. Ralph: So that gets into the infinite capacity of the whole space. Faith: If you can describe the infinite capacity. Ralph: So you are never going to run out, no matter what we do down here. Faith: No. Ralph: That's nice to know., Faith: But the only avenue of what, for ourselves, for why we had been stripped of our leaves so fast was because of the avenue of the way Becky needed our help. That's why if we remember correctly there were two or three times when we said we had to disappear for a while. But once we disappeared and came back, everything was just fine. It's just a matter of the extreme emergencies that we had to deal with. Ralph: Now the emergencies were caused by the human emotions. Faith: Correct. Ralph: And the use of Free Will by the False Front and all the personalities. Faith: And by the other therapists and the other individuals that were involved and were becoming involved with whole process of getting Becky's charge back to way it was. And the reason why it was so important was that Becky's charge is to do what she is doing now, to bring you back into the path you need to be. That's why it was so important that our energy level was going down because it was important that it happened at a certain point in time and that it would come back to now. Ralph: You had a very good reason to put out all the work, because the goal necessary to hold her together. Because I have to have her vocal cords. If I don't have your vocal cords, I'm not recording anything. Faith: That's correct, you aren't. Ralph: Then I wouldn't have anything to type. Faith: That's correct. Then you would feel very comfortable and wouldn't have to worry about any fights, correct? Ralph: I don't think it would change a bit in that subject, but it would be nice to think it would, but it wouldn't, so I might as well go ahead and write. Faith: Right. Ralph: I'd get the fights anyhow. Faith: No matter what. Ralph: I should get some rewards after all this time. Faith: That's correct. Ralph: Alright, we are talking, you can't measure the energies in Thoughtspace, we are talking about the light of the universe, the light of wisdom, that kind of light, people see a light at the end of the tunnel, in OOBE there is a light. Those kind of lights are not shining from the sun with physical photons. And therefore you couldn't use the rules of physics that measure photons Faith: Because there are not rules. Ralph: Because it isn't the same. Faith: It's not measurable. Ralph: There are no tools to measure it. Faith: No. Just as Charity told you, there are not tools to measure it. Just as there are no rules in our realm. Ralph: That's a problem, in physical space, the only way you know something is there is to have a tool to measure it. Faith: Correct Ralph: Like I have an eye to see this, I have a hand to touch this and these are my physical tools and I can take a measuring device and all that. Faith: You can't measure a thought. Ralph: I can't measure any of you people. Therefore, people say, "You obviously don't exist if we can't measure you." Faith: You could take your calibers in the air and describe one of ourselves. Ralph: But that would only be hoping I would get a bit of air between them and you are not in the air. Faith: No.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Leaders

During my conversations in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we discussed how our political leaders are chosen. We have a belief that in a democracy leaders should be chosen by the voters whom those people would lead. Charity disputes this idea, saying that the Spiritual Guardians of the potential leaders know whose Life Plans include their being leaders. Therefore, those who have Life Plans including holding high leadership positions in government need not be elected. I have to admit that she didn’t explain just how those individuals would be certified as the right ones for those positions. But here is our discussion on how to get leaders of our governments. Charity: Why would you want to pass something [a law] that can't correct a social behavior when your family has instilled what social behavior you need for that culture which you are born into – that the Guardian has selected for you? Why? Ralph: I don't know. Why do we elect these people to office? Some of them are you’ve got to be kidding. Charity: Do you vote for them, is that not the term? Ralph: The ones I vote for don't always get there. I wonder about the people that want to go into that line of work. Charity: What we would like to see in your realm of your running your government is not an elected official. It would be basically a position that the Guardian has led that Essence to put their charge into. It's not something for the humans, other humans, to vote on for that other human, being you think as a human thinks that that human needs to be into. It is not up to you humans to decide what another human is going to be into if the Guardian has chosen for that one to be in there. If you have chosen to disapprove that one that the Guardian has been told to put into that office, you have therefore deviated from their Life Plan and you have deviated from your Life Plan and the other ones that have voted it down. Ralph: Could I introduce the fact that in ancient Athens in Greece, I understand, they did exactly that? Charity: Thank you. Ralph: They had all members of the legislature picked by lottery Charity: That's not the term we're talking about. Ralph: I'm saying that every, in this case, only males, were considered equally competent to go into the legislature, and they just pulled by lot who would go to the legislature. They didn't run for election, nobody had to have campaigns, nobody voted, but they got a very representative sample of the citizens who did quite well. I'm just saying the fact that they were led in there by that method instead of election turned out well. Charity: That is an avenue that we had instilled unto that culture, but they had taken it further by still drawing a lot instead of letting the Guardian take over. Ralph: You could still decide whose lot gets drawn. Charity: Correct. Ralph: I'm saying that this avoided the question of elections and all the ramifications of campaign contributions. Charity: But what we are concerned about is because of your avenues, because your globe is not being run well, is that you humans are choosing what individuals need to be running your globe's affairs, and therefore the ones that we have sought are not in there and they should be in there. And then each course of all humanities that are on the glove their courses are not clearly laid out, they are deviating from where they should be. Ralph: Well, I think you have just hit another sacred cow. This was just the latest. I want to bring to your attention that our election process as a republic, which you should note is that all of us that are represented elect equally a representative who goes to the central headquarters to vote on these issues with the other elected people. We don't directly vote on the issues from home. That is another suggestion however, by the Internet, that we could do that. But at this moment – Charity: You humans are even choosing to change the design of the Internet to cause them to get onto that. Ralph: I'm just pointing out that we have a second hand vote through our representatives. Charity: What we would also like to see, as we told you, is that the monetary system be abolished, but we are working towards that now. Ralph: Well, I don't think I will be around here to see that. We consider this particular style of electing representative to be a great improvement over what most of the world has, who don't have the choice to elect anybody. And who gets into run the government is somebody who shot the other president. Charity: It might be what you humans consider running, but most humans don't even know what an Essence is, therefore when the Project comes across, the idea of an Essence and the duties and responsibilities of the CIE becomes known and your leaders will then understand the avenue and may change back to what it should be. This is all part of The Great Deception. Ralph: How is that aspect ? Charity: You humans needed an avenue of having, once we have stopped you believing in and worshiping ourselves and then reincarnation was taken away, all the avenues of all the other stuff regarding the parts of the Great Teacher, that everything was changed to bring about a way of making sure that your globe was built up and evolved the way it is now. Once that is happened, then this part of it must be changed back to what it used to be. Ralph: Then let me ask then on the question of government representation, the old style was kings, and initially they would be the most powerful warrior in the tribe. Isn't that generally who became a king? The others die off, and only the strong survive. He was also a charismatic leader whom everybody respected. Charity: You have to remember that when, as you say, in ancient Greece, they had drawn the representatives by lot. They had also for the way that the battles were done, or if they had won a great battle so they were then deemed to be very important to be leader of that great country. Ralph: That is one style of picking a leader, Charity: That is an inadequate style. We do not enforce the idea of the idea that you humans have of destroying another Essence. Why bother to try and kill another human being? Ralph: I'm not debating that, I'm just pointing out that the original king, many times, was the most successful leader of their army. Charity: The most successful warrior and leader, but there was an avenue which was distant in history, you can't find it in your literature, but there was an avenue with one civilization or culture that we were involved in that they were elected for their wisdom only, to run a country. Ralph: I'm just pointing out the sequential ways. The next one is the kingdom that then goes by birth, and the king's son then becomes the next king. The king of England – that's the way they have it, right? These are styles that have existed. Charity: These are all part of The Great Deception. Ralph: Let me try and understand what was being deceived in this political – I don't get the connection between the Great Deception and the political succession of leadership. Charity: You have to remember the succession of leadership was to build up the country in your globe to what it is now. We want it all to be reversed back to the culture that we have been involved in quite some time ago. To bring it back to electing or having the Guardian instilling into the Essence is to let that human know that they have the wisdom to run that country or that continent or that state or whatever you choose to call it. Ralph: I have an automatic question. How does this child then growing up to be the leader let anybody know about this to where they have a chance to be a leader? Charity: It will be acknowledged. Ralph: What about the one in Tibet? The Dali Lama is reincarnated into another little boy and that becomes the next Dali Lama and they just chose one not too long ago. In fact there were two contenders that were being challenged. Charity: And therefore you can tell that there was not an appropriate system if there were two contenders. Ralph: Well, I'm just pointing out that's what they have been doing for quite some centuries because they believe they can tell who is the reincarnated person of the dead Dali Lama. Charity: No one can tell or decide who is the one who has the wisdom or the knowledge. That is why it is very important that the Essence be acknowledged and therefore the Guardian be acknowledged. Ralph: I'm saying that that is another style that is close to what you are talking about. This person is destined to be the leader, and they took this little boy out, and they said, "We recognize him to be the destined leader for our country." Charity: We would instill onto that human that this is the time we would be open, a lot being drawn, that lot could only be that human's lot and therefore would be running your continent for the matters that need to be for the wisdom and the spiritual maturity of the one pointed out. Ralph: You can bring this to a real live president. How about John F. Kennedy? You told me he was now one of The Great Teacher. Charity: Yes. Ralph: Well, he was the president for two years. Now he went through the political process, he ran for election, he did all that and he became the president. Now was he not meant to be the president? Wasn't he where he was supposed to be? Charity: He was meant to be, but you have to remember what you humans at that time had the fear of Catholics running because, most humans were afraid of that to happen. So all of the cards were going against him, they had made a decision, most of the humans did not think that Mr. Kennedy was going to be elected. And because of that, but of course you know that changed, if we remember right, he won not a gigantic margin but a popular vote margin. Ralph: My point here is that he got elected in the standard process, so, if he was meant to be, why can't the born leader be elected through the standard process? Charity: Because they are born leaders, you have very few of them, and most of your leaders that you have now become occupied with turned Essences and Essences that are being turned that most of the humans are concerned with monetary values instead of the avenue of helping others in need of whatever. They are not interested in sharing what they have to help the other humans. Ralph: It does appear that one could get through the political process if one feels one belongs at the top. They have to be presidential acting to become elected. Charity: But you humans also have to remember that you have monetary values of spending enormous amounts of money, of monetary funds to elect someone to any office. You have humans that need to be put into that office, but there is not enough money to get into that office. And most times we will not, we will change it if it will happen, needs to happen immediately. But most times we will not intercede. Ralph: In regard to politics, we have major questions here. At this moment, we have countries where people have no right to pick their leaders, and they get whoever can undermine the current leadership, usually a general who raids the palace and gets rid of the present general who is in there. In some countries they have gone through nine generals in nine years. Those are not too stable countries, and they are often considered dictatorships, which is a bad word. But what you are suggesting is another kind of dictatorship, you see. These people have not come as a result of being recognized by the people they are dealing with as being qualified, having experience of working up in higher and higher levels of work, and therefore why should they be trusted with running our country? They haven't shown any skills. We have one right now, Jessie Jackson, who's a black minister. He has never run anything and he keeps running for president of the US. He hasn't been a mayor, he hasn't been a state governor, he hasn't been a legislator. He has had no governmental experience whatsoever, and if he would get elected – it takes skills to do the job. Charity: He could have had the skills in a prior life. Ralph: We don't know about his prior lives to be able to judge that. Charity: Then why would you humans want to judge another human? What we are stating is why should you humans be judging something that has already been ordained by the Guardians they have? Ralph: Nobody out there voting knows that the Guardians have decided any of this. Charity: That is why it is important when the Project comes out that they will understand that avenue. Ralph: But that is not likely to be an acceptable idea, because they could consider it a con job on the part of the person who said, "My Guardian said I should be president, so here I am!" That's not going to go very far. Charity: There was the precautions to be put onto that avenue for that to never happen. We are not telling you that it is going to happen in your great-grandchildren's lifetime. Ralph: I can see that. I'm saying that we would have to change completely the structure of the governmental process. I'm just saying it would seem to me on the surface of it that for somebody to make that assumption, that they are qualified for a leadership role in their society, that they are then going back to the dictatorship role. Charity: You have to remember that if you humans state, as an example, if you humans choose to say, "My Guardian has chosen me to run the country", you would know by that pronouncement that no, that is a falsehood. No human is going to make that pronouncement. No guardian is going to make that pronouncement. It will happen. And for us to go on with this avenue will just bring you more questions. We would rather that we drop this subject and pick it up at another time to go on with it. Ralph: Could I ask, as an example on TV last night, on the training of a man who led the Tartars through Asia, called Attila the Hun. And it was a description of his childhood and upbringing that led him to lead the Huns all across Europe as their leader since he was 35, and his father and uncles had all died. Now he was trained from boyhood with all the skills needed to lead his people. There was no lack of training that he was given. He was skilled in everything that he had to do. Now he naturally was seen by everybody who knew him as the most talented horseman, hunter, etc, that there was and they had no problems in seeing him leading him, because he was trained from age four. Now if that's going to happen, fine, the person is proving himself to his friends and neighbors, but otherwise I don't see how you could expect anybody to follow him. Charity: What you were stating is what you humans believe is now, is what you have seen and what you have experienced. You do not see it how we see it. And for us to try to explain it to you is confusing because your belief system's instilled knowledge is taking control of what we are trying to state. When we can get the right wordage for you to be able to continue on for this part of this conversation, we will, but right now it is at the point that you are not ready for it. We have gone as far as we can with that avenue of it. Do you understand that, Dearest? Ralph: I stated my question. OK, the other part of our belief system is that government works best with the consent of the governed.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Lawyers

During my discussions in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, she taught me how reincarnation works. She taught that there is a first series of lifetimes which is called “Survival Training” during which the paired Essence + Personality are learning how to survive in their culture. Then they progress onto lives in which they have a major occupational identity. The first identity is that of Preacher, the least spiritually mature occupational identity. After being a Preacher, they move up the ladder to become a Journalist. When they have been that a few times, they then progress to being a Lawyer, the occupational identity which is the third least spiritually mature one. After that lifetime, they will have a wide variety of occupations, depending on what their Master Life Plan says. Here we discuss the role in society of the lawyers, whom I had to work with repeatedly while working in prison and doing court reports on accused criminals. Charity: The first lifetimes, as we have told you, is for the preachers. Usually the next mode is the journalist mode. After that is usually your lawyer's mode. Then you have various other modes. Then it’s usually after that the Doctor mode. Then it starts working itself back down again. Ralph: I see that is where we are going overboard on that because, as a human doctor, if I don't put someone on life support, I can be accused of killing them and violating one of the Ten Commandment. Charity: But you are not. Ralph: Tell that to our lawyers. They will take my license away for that. Charity: You are following what the space we reside in dictates. Ralph: When I was on Emergency room duty, my Essence knew that, all the doctors and nurses knew that. It is the other folks telling us how to operate who get in the way. Charity: Correct. Ralph: If they would leave us alone, it wouldn't be a problem. You don't have people wanting people to die quickly. You are doing everything you can to maintain them, but you are not being foolish about it. You evaluate everything right there, and you make judgments. There is nothing wrong with those judgments. The Essences are all there working together. I understand that. Unfortunately, lawyers don't. Do lawyers have Essences? I'm not sure they do. Charity: We just told you. Ralph: I'm kidding, but it seems as if they have forgotten somehow that it's in there somewhere, because they are not using those principles at all. Charity: We understand that. Ralph: Now if you CIE had so much to do with AIDS, you could have stopped it. Because then they could have done the things they already knew how to do with the other diseases. But now we can't even look for contacts and warn them. You didn't need a law to deal with AIDS. The lawyers ruined it by this law. [Now Faith, a Spiritual Guardian CIE, replaces Charity.] Faith: Human's Free Will changed it, the avenues – Ralph: I'm saying that inasmuch as the other diseases all operate in the same way with human beings, we don't require laws to protect confidentiality. Faith: OK Ralph: Somewhere along the line an intervention could have occurred so the lawmakers didn't pass that law. Faith: When that happened, did you need ourselves? Ralph: You're not going to tell me that was a necessary law. Faith: We are not going to make a judgment call. Ralph: I don't think you wanted the law. Faith: We are not going to talk about that and human Free Will. Ralph: Human Free Will is what makes all the laws. Faith: Thank you. Ralph: You haven't got any laws. Faith: We have no rules. Ralph: You just have individual choices at the time of making choices. Faith: Correct. All avenues of choices. Ralph: No legal ethics, only situational ethics. Basically, each person is unique unto all others. Faith: Correct Ralph: Well, one of the major rules that messes it up is what I call the Fairness Doctrine. That everyone must be dealt with fairly, meaning equally to all people, and that is not part of your code. [Here Charity comes back to replace Faith.] Charity: No. Each human has to experience their Life Plan that they are set upon this time to experience. You humans want to change that. Ralph: That is where our lawyer friends have been propounding that very vigorously, and they are getting control of the rules and regulations for all these things. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Now maybe you can do something about the types of lawyers we get. Can you improve their spirituality? Charity: No. Ralph: Now come on, that would seem to be the most effective way to improve the system. Charity: No, they don’t have enough time and experiences to be able to improve them. Ralph: They are not terribly advanced. Charity: No. Ralph: So they are in need of a lot of control. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Now I have to deal with them at work. Charity: Correct. Ralph: It’s a challenge.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on the Jews of Jesus' Day

In 1995, I had many conversations with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. This is a transcript of one such conversation about the Jews of Jesus’ day and the way they viewed what Charity calls “The Creator”. Ralph: The other conflict then was the Jews and the sect that became the Christians, which was not anywhere else in the world. Charity: No. Ralph: There is only one God. But the Jews had labeled this as a vengeful God that would punish people that didn't obey His rules, and I have heard that in the Jewish temple since that time, which seems like a bad, hostile parent. Charity: Right Ralph: It doesn't match. And Christ said, "It's a loving God that loves all of you even though you are doing awful things." This is a more positive view which is what my father was teaching, as an improvement over the Jewish God. But there still is only One. Nobody debated that, and they would not have a god of this and a god of that and a god of the other. But then they also prided themselves on sacrificing themselves. Since Christ was killed, if they were killed, they were like Christ, and you end up annihilating a large portion of the population that way, which is not a very productive way to proceed. Charity: No, it is not. Ralph: I couldn't quite see why they were all laying themselves open for execution. Charity: What they saw in part of the Teacher [Jesus Christ] was the aspect of a forgiving nature which most of the humans up until this time also did not have. They saw in the Teacher something that they wanted to have. Therefore that is why they were sacrificing themselves to be the same as what "The Teacher" was. Ralph: Now, there is no mention in this manuscript about the belief in being reincarnated later, that this was any kind of a positive attitude, even though I know it was a part of the belief system of that time. Charity: Yes, it was. Ralph: Did that play an important part? That they could say, "Go ahead and kill me. I'll be back later." Charity: Yes Ralph: So it didn't mean that much to them. Charity: They believed that most fiercely that they would go ahead and offer themselves for that because they wanted to be part of that particular nature of The Teacher. But they also knew they were going to be coming back again to be, as the book states, to be reborn, even though that isn't in there. Ralph: Actually, what it says in here is not the reincarnation concept. It is believed by many now that Christ rose from the dead on the third day after his execution, and therefore is they "believe in Christ," take Christ into their heart, they will rise from the dead, which meant the physical body would come up out of the grave. Charity: At the appointed time. We have an answer to that aspect. Which life is going to be resurrected? Which body? Ralph: Oh, I've heard you. That's why the two messages don't jive. And the reincarnation message doesn't jive with that one. Charity: As we were stating, it was the start of the Great Deception. Ralph: You must go in a certain place and live in a certain building, and things like that, or attend a certain church. So you have much more broader rules. Like the Jews cannot drink out of certain dishes, and that is very strict. You can't use the pot for cooking that you are using for something else. Charity: No. Ralph: You don't care what kind of pot they use as long as they eat healthy food. Charity: We don't care what kind of religion they care to worship. Just as long as it does not indoctrinate or change the role of the human at that time. We chose for them not to be a follower of things and follow blindly. Ralph: Instead of listening to their own Essence, listening to the turned Essence of a cult leader. Charity: Most correct. [Here we have a discussion of the Dead Sea Scrolls.] Ralph: And the other books were going to be burned and destroyed, but the librarians decided to bury them in the desert instead. Thank you folks. And they finally dug them up 1500 years later. All part of the plan, of course. Now, we came to this question the other time about what did happen at the time of the crucifixion. First off, there is in here an excellent discussion of the way the Gospels write about the reasons for the crucifixion, who was responsible for it, being he was executed by the Roman governor, along with other criminals that had been sentenced by the Roman governor and yet it was the Jewish leaders, Sanhedrin, etc. that were accusing him of all these terrible things. Charity: Misdeeds, yes Ralph: Right, and they allegedly pressured the governor to execute him, and the governor, according to the Bible, said, "No, he hasn't done anything wrong," and they list Pontius Pilate as the one who said that – He was really a nasty guy in history, who executed anybody he cared to. He was not a patsy. Charity: No. Ralph: So they give a false picture of the Roman governor of that day, who was really a very cruel person, and he wouldn't have cared what they accused him of, he would go ahead and execute him. Charity: How do I explain this? Ralph: So the writers here were trying to blame the orthodox Jews. Charity: Correct Ralph: And not blame the Romans, who were really in charge of execution. Charity: Correct Ralph: The only time the Jewish leaders could punish anybody was if they violated some religious law. Charity: Correct, and they take it up with the Roman government to make sure that execution, or whatever else, was carried out. And they can say, therefore, that the Romans are the ones that executed them, they did not. Ralph: Well, in this case there is that appearance in the Bible to blame it all on the Jews. And therefore they have gotten blamed for killing Jesus and that's been a major problem for the Jews. Because then the Christians can say, "Well, you killed our leader and we can hate you therefore." Charity: Therefore it fosters a beginning of an ethnic hatred. Ralph: Antisemitism, par excellence Charity: And so once it has done that, it is beginning to be sanctioned to all corners of your globe. Ralph: That's not a very healthy thing. Charity: Therefore the Deception has started as we told you, it was the Great Deception. Ralph: OK, now was the execution – the other reason that the Romans would have wanted to execute him was that they were putting down everybody who was challenging their rule. Charity: Of course. Ralph: And he was just one more out of hundreds, another young rebel. Charity: He was one who was creating havoc, that's correct. And they did not want him to be proclaimed as King of anything. And that was what they were proclaiming him as was King. Therefore they were usurping the authority of the Emperor at that time by making part of the Great Teacher a King onto their own right, when he was not. Ralph: Well, did the Sanhedrin and Pharasees, who were the leading organizations of the Jewish church group, did they want to get him killed for some other reason? Charity: The crescendo happened with them bringing to the ruling government at that time that this human being was a detriment to them as leaders to make sure that the humans obeyed the laws of the government. By doing that, the government said, "Yes, you are most correct. We were thinking about destroying this human being anyway." Ralph: OK, there is another interesting thing I didn't know about until I was reading here, and that is some 60-70 years after Christ's birth there was a revolt by the Jews against the Roman government and it was after that that the Gospels were written, that were accepted were written. And they were being written after the Jews had lost the battle, and they were struggling for survival and they didn't want to antagonize the Romans anymore. Charity: What the Jews needed was some kind of strong positive self esteem that they could realize was there and they could follow it. That was what they needed. That was why they were written, but they were so deceived in the concept of different matters that the book was written. Ralph: I'm just saying that between the time of Christ's life and later when those books were actually put down in black and white, there was the war. Charity: Of course. Ralph: That the Jews lost, and therefore they were in the position of a losing enemy, and they didn't dare write things or publicize things that would antagonize the Romans anymore. Charity: Yes, of course. Ralph: Then they were blaming the other Jews for this horrible deed, and making the Romans look like nice guys who were patsies. Charity: That's correct. Ralph: And that is what they were really interested in, keeping the Romans from annihilating them any further. Charity: Of course. Ralph: So you see that as being a reasonable reason for it. Charity: Yes. Ralph: Now, at the time of the crucifixion and the three days and being born again, there we have again several different stories in here as to who they were talking to three days later. Charity: As we told you, it was an image of the human that they had perceived and still knew. If we had come to them as another entity or another energy life force, or into another human body, it would have not – the Great Deception could not have started. Therefore it was entered into that aspect that we brought the human back onto the earth to walk around and to say, "Hey, I'm here." Ralph: OK, what happened to his physical body that was lying in the grave? Charity: It was decayed and disappeared, basically. Ralph: In three days? Charity: Yes, we can do that. Ralph: You superdecayed it? You speeded up the process? Charity: You have to remember too – Ralph: You couldn't have it in two places? Charity: No, we can't. You have to remember, too, back in those times, you had the, they say that, if I remember right, that the stone of the tomb was rolled and covered it, and when this female human came, she found the stone moved away from it, and there was nothing laying in the tomb when she came. First of all, when you have a boulder or rock that is going to be rolled into it, it's not going to encase that body so that nothing can ever come inside. Ralph: Certainly, air is going to come in. Charity: Not only that but, how do we say this? Other creatures can come in. Ralph: Well, it was not a tight seal. Charity: Do you understand what we're saying? Ralph: You could get in there whether a rock was in front of it or not. Charity: Do you understand what we're saying? Ralph: With a rock in a door, you are going to have all kind of cracks around it. Charity: Creatures can get in to it and therefore – Ralph: Termites, ants do this all the time at our houses. Charity: And other matters of animals, yes. Therefore it, the body, was not there anymore, because there was nothing left of the body and whatever was not done away with, the rest of it was done away with by ourselves. Ralph: So the physical body was – Charity: No more. It was not existing. Ralph: Dust unto dust, yes, shall we say. It returned to its original atomic parts Charity: That's being nice, yes. Ralph: It went back to its original atomic forms, but these people saw an image that was somewhat like him. [a hologram] Charity: It was the image of the human that they remembered. Ralph: OK. Charity: If we had chosen to come back as some other form, they would not have recognized it and the Deception could not have started. Ralph: So he did not rise physically with the same body out of the grave after having been killed with all the knives and swords into him? Charity: No. That was an illusion brought on by ourselves. Ralph: He actually said that to several people in the non-published books. Charity: He also said in the published version, "Don't touch me."

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Idols

In 1995, I had many conversations with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. Several were on the Ten Commandments and God’s opinions of them. This one is on the one prohibiting the worship of graven images or idols. Ralph: The second of the Ten Commandments is, “You shall not make yourselves a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and forth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments." [Exodus 20:4-6] Charity: The Creator would have never said that. The Creator does not punish. The Creator has us to aid him. The Creator is Love and nothing else. Therefore The Creator does not care if you make anything that is an image. Ralph: These are like statues, what they call idols. Charity: Do you not have those now in your churches? Ralph: (Picking up Russian picture on a block) This is a very common one in Russia, this type of picture. They have these in their churches all the time. Charity: But this is not of The Creator. Ralph: No, that is of Mary and the baby Jesus. But I'm saying that's a sample of the kind of art work that they have in the Russian churches we saw, walls and walls of them. Icons. They do this as a regular business. Charity: The Creator does not care if you do anything like that. The Creator does not care if you make any kind of idols or anything else. The Creator is not a human being and therefore not prone to caring of an image or a picture. Ralph: Not being a historian, I can't speak for sure about what they were doing in those days. I have the feeling we are talking about how there were lots of groups of people, the Hebrews we are talking about, and they had these statues of the various gods that they had in their region. They were worshiping these statues as ISIS and all the various Egyptian gods that they had statues of around the pyramids. Charity: That was the time that we tried to take them away from worshiping ourselves, instead of The Creator. Ralph: I think this is in response to the fact that most of the people at that time were worshiping these gods, god of the sun, gods of this and gods of that, which, as you say, is what they were representing. And so they said, "Don't worship any idols, I am the only one you should worship. I'm not an idol, I'm not a rock, I'm not a carved piece of wood.” Charity: The Creator would not say that. Ralph: So that's the second commandment, it says basically, "Do not worship any graven images" which is the usual phrase, which means a rock, a carved shape of some god, which is a common practice among the Egyptians Charity: OK Ralph: They were coming out of Egypt at this time. Charity: We've answered that then.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Homosexuality

One of the conversations I had in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, was about homosexuality. Here is the transcript of that conversation. Charity: Homosexuality is not a mental illness. You have been a homosexual in your prior lives. Ralph: We have a political battle about this all the time, about whether or not somebody is born homosexual or whether they become that way. Would you care to make any statement about why some people are innately attracted to a person of the same sex instead of the opposite sex? Charity: Each human has to experience all avenues of everything. When you are going through your lives, the ones that are starting now or condemning the homosexuals will be homosexuals themselves. Ralph: This will be one of their lifetimes, whether they choose it or not? Charity: Of course Ralph: Ten percent of the population are homosexual, if you add them up. In any culture, any group, any nation, about 10% prefer the same sex for their attraction. And they just happen to be the group who have the problem. Charity: They don’t have a problem Ralph: Well, we have the religious right who look in the Bible, and it clearly says in the Bible that man should not do that. God disapproves of that. It says so right there. Charity: Show me where it says that. Ralph: I'm not going to pull the Bible down because I'm not a religious writer but I’ve heard it quoted. Charity: We have already stated – Ralph: Man wrote it. Charity: Right. The Creator does not care. Ralph: In many books I have on Jesus’ teaching, people writing these manuals were writing to large groups, not to individuals, and, in large groups, homosexual behavior does not keep children being produced, so that is not good for increasing the work population. So they wouldn’t want that, since you wouldn’t have enough children to do all the jobs you have in an expanding economy. So its not good for the group. But for that 10% it’s fine. Charity: It was written by man. Ralph: Written by man, OK. We don’t have a God up there that hates homosexuals, is that what you are saying? Charity: The Creator does not hate. Ralph: Well, you can hear all these people on TV talking about what He doesn’t want. Charity: It is what the humans want, and they use The Creator by stating that – they are always using Him Ralph: They use him as a bully boy, somebody with a bat who is going to hit you if you don’t do what they want. Charity: Why would The Creator design some humans with homosexuality and some that are not? Some are gifted in music and some are not. Why did The Creator not design all humans to be the same? Ralph: He could have. Charity: He could have if He had chosen to but that would have negated our responsibility. Ralph: It would have been very boring; you wouldn’t have had much to do. Charity: Yes, we’ve been busy.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Homelessness

One of the conversations I had in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, was about families who were homeless. Here is a transcript of that conversation. Charity: Basically all you humans need to do is just to provide the basic survival instincts. If a child or parent in that situation that we have chosen for each one to be born into, all other matters is to leave it alone. That would include if the parents or their offspring become physically sick, whatever avenue of it could be, that’s our responsibility, our duties. Ralph: Let me tell you about the Donahue show, where they interviewed several families who had been homeless. These were parents with children. The man lost his job, they didn’t have any money for rent, and they, one of them – mother, father and four or five children – lived in a van on the street.. This man had lost his job, he was a nice fellow, but he just ran out of money and they were evicted from the house. they lived in. That van parked on the street for at least a month. Now they have moved into one of the shelters that was giving them a home, and he could now get a job, so he was now on his way up. But they asked them if they were putting their children in jeopardy. They had no water, no sewer, they couldn’t take baths, they had no food, and yet they had their own relatives, their own parents, the grandparents that would have taken the children in temporarily. But this couple said, "No, we’re not going to ask for help. We will take care of our children." And that was a real conflict. I mean, is that taking care of their children when they are in that risk, when there was blood relatives that could have been called? They didn’t want to embarrass themselves by telling the relatives. Charity: You have to remember that each one of the Essences was working in that situation. They had to be where they were at that time. Each Guardian was working where they were supposed to be. They were at that spot where they needed to be at. No human needed to interfere. They were where they were supposed to be, they were learning what they needed to be. Period. Ralph: You don’t see that they made a mistake by not calling in for outside help that was physically available? Charity: No. Ralph: I have a hard time with that kind of a view of it, but that's your view. I wasn’t there, I didn’t have to make their choices. I'm just saying. I was not the one with the choice, they had to make that, and they did come through it, the kids were all alive and breathing so you can't argue with the results. Charity: They needed to learn what they needed to learn. Ralph: OK. Charity: Would that the humans should not take away our responsibility. They were in the situation they needed to be before them. That was created for them.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Adolph Hitler

In 1995, I had a number of recorded conversations with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. Here is one about the fate of Adolph Hitler, who had an Essence which was so badly turned that it went to stay for all eternity in Charity’s special rehabilitation center. Charity: If we understand correctly, with Mr. Booth who destroyed Mr. Lincoln, Mr. Booth’s Essence was not only turned, but was completely destructive. There was no hope of rehabilitation. Ralph: Hopeless, like Hitler. Charity: Basically, yes. For assassinations of this caliber, most of the Essences that use the body to exact revenge are turned Essences or baby Essences who do not like their assignments. Or they wish to some matter of a destruction mode that the Essence sees as a way of gaining attention from ourselves to the matter of exercising their Free Will. And they also have the falsehood that they will come up and be one of ourselves, and not have to come back and be incarnated into another lifetime again. They have a mistaken notion that they have done something that is pleasing in our sight. Ralph: Is there any way they can get reassigned or promoted? Charity: No, nothing can happen. On the avenue of the human being, the human being is connected to the Essence. Therefore the interconnection continues on. If the human carcass therefore ceases, then the Essence will be assigned to another. That is the only way a human can be walking and talking and breathing and existing. Ralph: Now we do have individuals who appear to be as alienated as possible from The Creator, people like Adolph Hitler, for example. Charity: He is in our special school. Ralph: Right. They are on the earth as alienated as possible as anybody could be from The Creator’s intentions and desires and plans as anybody. Charity: The Creator does not make mistakes. Ralph: They have chosen to be going in the opposite direction. Charity: The Essence has chosen, yes. Ralph: I'm just wondering if they still have the same connection? Charity: Yes. Ralph: Do they break the connection? Charity: No. Ralph: What do they do as a result of their choice of Free Will to go in another direction? Do they create some kind of change in their energy? Charity: There are no changes. The flow is there. Ralph: So it is not as if when they get so rebellious – like a leg gets so diseased it is going to kill the body, we cut it off. You don’t have a way of cutting off an Essence who has become so diseased. C; No, but we have our ways of having a more of a – on your avenue regarding your leg, more of the avenue of bringing in extra energy on that part of it. Because with the Essence of that human that you spoke of, and the Free Will choice, it is in our school and it will be there until the end of time. Ralph: As long as you care to keep it? Charity: It will not contaminate. It will stay where it is at. It has its system going, but we have the extra added energy onto it, to basically bypass it so it can continue on.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Heaven

During my discussions in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we talked about what our culture has been taught about heaven, from what I learned in church as a son of a Presbyterian preacher. She had taught me that there are two “realms”, one of which I called Thoughtspace and one Physicalspace. Thoughtspace is where the CIE and The Creator reside full-time, and where they train Essences prior to their reincarnating into new physical bodies. Those bodies then exist in Physicalspace, which has the four dimensions, three physical ones and time. It is what many people call the “real world.” Charity: Anything that will make the humans feel more comfortable in their longing and finding a way of communicating with their Essences is fine with The Creator. The Creator does not worry about how to come about with spiritual understanding. Or with your communication with your Essence. Ralph: It's interesting reading some of these history of philosophy books. Because there are even quotes in there from old literature that indicate that the God the Hebrews were worshiping really wasn't the only God, He also had a mother who said, "Sonny boy, you're not the only one around here, so quit bragging," basically. Which is kind of funny. There appeared to be dialogue because they had the image of God as a Jealous God, who resented worship of Zeus, etc. so that he wanted them to recognize him as the only God. They said that he had a mother who created him. That is a little confusing to me. I'm just pointing this out these are some of the things that are in the old literature. So we have a concept of a very human, emotional God who is resentful if you don't put him, and nobody else, up on the pedestal. That's like, “I'm the King.” It's a temporary position for anybody. And they are seen in that way, that there is a throne in Heaven where God is. Charity: There is no "place" where The Creator is sitting. The Creator is all around. The Creator is all. Ralph: This is why – Charity: There is another avenue that you humans have also used. I understand it is called "The Gates of Heaven." Ralph: The Pearly Gates of Heaven with St. Peter standing there to check you in. Charity: Which makes no avenue of an understanding unto ourselves when we are all around. There is not one place where The Creator stays. Ralph: Well, it looks real nice in the movies, when they make it that way. Much easier to put it into the movies that way. It is handy for that purpose. Charity: But what you humans call a physical body, you want a physical carcass. That's not going to happen. Ralph: They don't see anything else as being possible. Charity: We can understand that, as they don't understand that we have everything here. The energy level is throughout where you are standing now. You have Faith and Hope right here. Ralph: But they are also saying this is in heaven, not on this Earth, some place that has no limits for all the bodies that will have to be there. As you mentioned, how many incarnation bodies do you want? If you put them all there, you would have to have an infinite space. Charity: Correct. Ralph: I'm not sure where that is. What planet are you talking about? Charity: Wait a moment, now. You are assuming that you humans are going to be staying on this globe. Correct? Ralph: No, heaven, that's not on this globe. There is some place called heaven that they have laid out that we will be living – that's again part of it. Where everything is wonderful, and we can have all we want to eat, and don't have to pay for groceries, and don't have to pay PG&E for electricity. How idealistic can life be? Everything's free. You don't have to go to work every day. Charity: First of all, heaven is not there. Ralph: That is the image that is laid out for us. Ralph: I just remember we had the history of our Protestant church. There was this great debate about if you behaved in a noble way, you then would end up in a positive state after you died, beloved by God, and that was what everybody wanted to do. OK? Your behavior now would gauge where you went after you died, either heaven or hell. That’s the view. And it has been for two thousand years. Well, that is what people were given as a reward/punishment mechanism. So that is why they laid down, "if you do these things." The problem came about, with this question of predestination, that some of us were going to end up on God’s right hand, and that was already decided when we were born. OK, and some of us were going to end up in hell. That’s all we got. We don’t have any more than one lifetime. Well, at birth some were born fated to go to hell, and some were born fated to go to heaven. Now, if you took the view that those fated to go to heaven would, by their very nature, do the nice things that society approved of, like taking care of your children and always paying your rent, and not beating up your wife. Then that showed that you had the character of those who were going to go to heaven. Naturally, everyone wanted to be considered one of those who were going to go to heaven. Now the Catholic church at that time recognized that nobody behaved well all the time and so, if you did something that wasn’t quite up to snuff to go to heaven, they would let you pay money to the church and buy what they called an indulgence. Which meant the priest forgave you for your sin for your contribution. Charity: Monetary. Ralph: Right, a major source of income for the churches. And that then put you back in the track of going to heaven. Now, they were selling those indulgences in such volume that obviously only the rich people could afford to do it continually, and that is one of the things Luther got very upset about, being a priest in the Catholic church at the time. "That is wrong, we shouldn’t do that. If you are fated to go to heaven, you will go to heaven, you won't get there by paying indulgences to the priest." Because what they were saying was that if you do all the good things, that proves that you belong in heaven, so, even if you were a nasty guy headed for hell, if you could fake it long enough and play the game of being a good guy, you will sneak your way into heaven. So what is it, is it your behavior during your life that gets you into heaven, or is it your core nature that you were bound for heaven regardless of what you did? And that was a big issue for a long time. Charity: Do you want us to answer that question? Ralph: I don’t know that there is an answer from your department. You have to see that then is what develops do-gooders, as we say. That by doing all these good things that our society rewards us for, we are going to earn our place in heaven. And I think you have to recognize that is the culture of the Western, European, English and American. That’s been going on for the last three or four centuries with that argument being made that clearly. Luther was the one who said, "Hey, you can’t buy your way into heaven." And now you are throwing a whole monkey wrench into that whole concept and saying they are both wrong. I know that, but you have to understand that is how we are raised in this culture, subtly, and what do our politicians do to get voted in? They say, “I’ve got you this service”, and “We got all these things”, and “I’ve protected this and you’ve got protection from everything." Charity: But that’s all part of the Great Deception. You’ve got to realize this. Ralph: Now, which aspect? Charity: Your do-gooding aspect. First of all your aspect of believing that there is a heaven and a hell, when there is no avenue on that aspect anyway. Ralph: OK, so there is no place to head for in the first place. Charity: That is correct. Ralph: You are all going to get to the same place regardless of how you behaved on Earth. It isn’t going to get you to Door A versus Door B. Charity: No, there are no doors. Ralph: But what I am saying is that the gate at heaven is a description of what we will meet, with St. Peter standing there to grade us. Charity: Who is St. Peter? Ralph: St. Peter was Peter the disciple that was the first Bishop of the Christian Church, one of Christ’s students. He then was, according to the Bible, given the responsibility for being the head of the church. Charity: Of course it is. But for you humans, as we stated, it is part of the Great Deception that we have done. Ralph: While we are looking at that book on reincarnation, going through all the theoretical – again, the same sort – "we have this thing here that sort of resides within the body and it doesn’t get killed when the body gets killed”. So we sort of do something with it, it goes to heaven or hell, you know. Wow. Charity: There is no heaven or hell. Just as you’ve stated. The energy force is where, as we have connoted it as Thoughtspace, all Essences, all of the CIE reside. The term hell could be what you humans are experiencing now. That’s your avenue. An energy is the one that runs the universe. Ralph: Let’s go onto the next one, then. There was one that said, “When we die, we go to a place called heaven to speak to God." Now that sounds very pleasant. Charity: We are sorry. Ralph: To see the Teachers. Charity: To getting an introduction to every aspect. Ralph: Well, I do. When I die, it is where Michael will be, in the Afterworld, wherever your soul goes. Charity: There is no soul, there is an Essence. Ralph: Well, that’s in the old tradition you either went to heaven or to hell, and, if you are a Catholic, you have to go to Purgatory first, which is temporary housing. Charity: Which you will have to buy yourself out of that. Ralph: That has been the way it was, yes. Charity: Again, it is monetary values. Ralph: Maybe you can explain to me how Martin Luther did when he was challenging the Catholic Church which was selling indulgences like that. You would buy your ticket to make sure you went to heaven. They raised a lot of money that way, because everybody wanted to go to heaven. They had this big battle, I remember my father telling me about, that certain people from the time they were born were ordained to go to heaven. They would be the good people on earth, and all their activities would be spiritually advanced, shall we say. And you knew that because their behavior was so upright and honorable. They were the ones who were going to go to heaven. That was not their choice, that was their assignment. They were issued that set of orders at birth, OK? So all during their life they would be the good people who helped everybody out, and did all the kind things in the world, OK? Then at the end, they would go to heaven. Then the question came, "Well, if I am not appointed that way, but I choose to behave that way all during my life, will that earn me the ticket to go to heaven? Why not? After all, l've done all the same things all these other people did, so I should get rewarded. I may not have been designated to begin with, but I choose to be a nice guy so doesn’t that get me into heaven, too?" That battle went on – I remember my dad talking about that as a big intellectual debate that, if you weren’t chosen to go to heaven, did good deeds earn your way into heaven? Charity: Can we see the tickets? Ralph: I never saw the tickets. Just it was obvious some people were going to go there, and those people you would know were going to go there, because they did good things. They didn’t have to choose; that was the only thing they could do. They were good robots. Charity: We haven’t seen this heaven. Ralph: You haven’t seen heaven? Charity: No. Ralph: I guess they didn’t get taken to the right place, then. Charity: We would like to see the tickets, to see what it says on them. Ralph: If you could work your way into heaven, if you weren’t one of the lucky ones to be assigned there at birth. Charity: That is not accurate. There is no heaven, so you cannot go into that. Ralph: So you get all the rascals as well as all the wonderful folks. Charity: We get all. Ralph: You get everything, every single one of them. Charity: All. Ralph: The only thing we call less than heaven that we call hell would be your special school for those you don’t want to reincarnate. But they are still in the same area, but their movements is restricted. Charity: Very much so. Ralph: That’s fine, that’s fine. But they are not being whipped, and in the middle of flames, and having you torture them, which is our image of hell. Charity: No, we have a – if you want an image, there is a guard that is assigned to that area. If your body was to live forever, then your body would have never grown. It would not have the gray hair, you would not be as tall, you would not be fully grown, you would still be a baby. What good is a human body that does not cease? Ralph: That is a philosophical question about which we will have long debates. I think what we need to see is a replacement. We always think of the body as having to stay forever. We are talking about living forever, so we mix up the body and living as the same thing. That is where the misconception is. We talk about there being a soul which is supposed to go to heaven. Or hell. It just doesn’t do anything else after that, you see. It just sits and plays the harp and has wings, and listens to music in heaven, doesn’t do much. Charity: It must be a very big place – heaven. Ralph: Well, it is like when I took my first daughter up in an airplane, above the clouds. She looked out, the first time she had been above the clouds, "Is this where heaven is?" I really couldn’t tell her. How would I know? It might be. But that is the concept we talk about when we say life is so precious and should continue on, and with this the Essence and the Emotional Self as the life. And we can’t stop them from continuing on, no matter what we do. Charity: Correct. The physical body is a carcass. We can have you humans be chairs. Ralph: I wonder what civilization would be like if all humans were chairs? Charity: Nothing.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Talking to the CIE

During one of my conversations in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we discussed the ways the Essences and the CIE can communicate directly to us humans. Here is the transcript of that conversation. Ralph: Maybe we could talk about various ways of listening. I have an example with Gene this afternoon. As you know, he has not been able to comprehend an Essence directly, and he asked me whether or not the CIE could talk through somebody besides Marie. I said they had indicated it was possible and I had had an example with Elise. Well, whom he meant was his wife. He had talked with her after the session with Marie and tried to inform her of what he was going through so she would know what was happening to him. She has always been a spiritually attuned lady. So they were in the car together, and he was explaining what had happened between him and Marie that had caused a freeze in communication and, without him explaining enough so that someone could intellectually analyze it, she came right out with a statement sounding very much like what I am used to hearing from you folks about other people. "Basically, she was just testing you out." It was the kind of analysis which left him wondering who was talking through his wife. Because physically, she didn’t know enough about it to have come out with an intellectual analysis of the situation. It sounded like what I hear Becky talking about or you talking about these kind of situations. So, do you have any comments? Were you using his own mate to get around his own barrier? Charity: You are most correct. Ralph: So what would you – how would you explain who was doing what in that situation? Charity: That was his Guardian that was bringing forth the information. But the Guardian was using the vocal cords of his mate. Just as we have used others. Ralph: OK, so Ruth [Spiritual Guardian for both Gene and myself] was busy going through his mate because he would be listening to her as it happens. Well, he was quite impressed. He still hasn’t gotten a direct internal communication he can – Charity: That is because he is still in the mode of the scientific reality. He has not chosen to believe fully what is inside of him. He is not trusting, therefore he has closed, it is very hard for him to open up. Ralph: He admits repeatedly he is in a big hurry. Charity: Right Ralph: And when you are in a big hurry, it blocks it. Charity: Of course, it will always block it Ralph: OK, but also the Essence has to put out a message to follow. Charity: Of course. Ralph: I'm just thinking about types of messages other than what we have already mentioned. Charity: Well, the Essence has many messages all the time for every one of its charges, and each message is varied for each charge. One avenue is needing to watch a TV program. Because the Guardian and the Essence are so close together, it could be the Guardian is feeding to the Essence that the charge should drop this job and go to this other one. It could be matters of moving the house. It is different avenues of different things. Ralph: Now let me just ask about my moving from Santa Cruz. That involved a lot of different people taking certain actions that I had to respond to. Charity: And we know how well you respond to certain avenues. Ralph: I'm just trying to clarify for the records, if it makes a difference how much the Essence does, versus the rest of the CIE. Charity: Because of what you are destined for, your situation was a little different. We have taken over the aspect of yourself. Ruth is there but she is busy with other avenues, with others. Because you are part of what is going to happen, we have had to take over and go on the avenue of what the Essence does and what the CIE does, you have to remember we are not hierarchical. Ralph: We are trying to talk about the Essence here, so I'm just trying to narrow down what the Essence does. Charity: That’s very difficult. Ralph: Is it possible to separate it out? Charity: It’s difficult. If you go to the last chapter of the manuscript that was just finished, it points out what the Essence is involved with. Ralph: But moving out of town wasn’t one of them. Charity: It was not. But we are stating that it is an avenue of Michael [my Essence] and the Guardian [Ruth]. Ralph: So there it is a matter of teamwork where the Essence is passing the communications on that might be engendered by one of the CIE, who's got the plan laid out and he is like an agent. He is a local agent. Charity: Right. Ralph: In charge to get that person moving, and someone else is the agent to get that person to move. Charity: Right. What happens on it – you need to meet this human being for a reason, you need to discuss certain matters, whatever it is the situation for yourself is important that the Essence directs that information to yourself. There are different avenues. The Essence talks to you. And each human being is too different from each other to give a broad description.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Hope's Views on the Death of a Person with MPD

During my discussions with the CIE in 1995, one time I discussed with Hope, a Spiritual Teacher CIE, what would happen in the case of the sudden death (the CIE use the term “cease to exist”) of a patient like Marie. She had gone through therapy with me so that the Original Personality could integrate with all of her alter-personalities. This I call psychological integration She was then operating in society with all her alters integrated, and her Original Personality (a.k.a. Emotional Self or Kanjou) in charge, and a still dissociated Essence/ISH named Becky (a.k.a. Risei or Intellectual Self). I wondered what would happen at the time of death to the dissociated nature of the relationship between Marie and Becky. Here is how Hope answered my question. Ralph: I’ve got one little question. In Marie’s case, we have an Essence, Becky, still separated from Marie. Now, if there was to be a sudden death of her, unplanned of course, and they were not yet reintegrated according to plan, what happens? Hope: When death is imminent, it would be that Becky and Marie would be joined automatically. Ralph: That’s what I wondered, because they have to be united for the next lifetime, and I was just – they haven’t gone through any kind of a bonding yet. Hope: But it would happen immediately. But there is no plan for that. Ralph: I understand, but I was just thinking theoretically, if you have people who die dissociated . Hope: It would happen in a matter of just as the body was drawing its last breath. Ralph: They would be leaving together, so then they could start again as a bonded unit. Hope: Just as she took her first breath as they entered the body, then the Essence came in at that point in time, and that’s the way the Essence and the personality would become one again. Ralph: Now, in your school, are they one or do you have two different classes going on? That is sort of separating one and two, but are the Essence or, as the Japanese say, the Risei, and the Kanjou separate? Hope: The Emotional Self does not exist. The Emotional Self’s body is gone. Ralph: Whoa, let me get my theory straight then. Hope: You were talking about the training that Becky has been doing. Ralph: Let me say again, using English, I’m limited. But if you use the Japanese words, Kanjou is Marie, which we don’t have an English word for. Hope: Right. Ralph: And she is the Emotional Part of the package that was born. And Becky is the Risei, the Intellectual part of the package that was born. OK. In ordinary circumstances, they are all one, but now, when they finish this life, under ordinary circumstances, without dissociation, who do you have available to teach? Hope: We have Becky, and we have the fragment that is Marie. Ralph: OK, so they start as two different fragments, at two different points in the past. Hope: Right, but we have a fragment. It is a fragment, it is not an Essence. A fragment would be put on the corner shelf, and Becky is over here getting her instructions. And then when a new body is found, they go back in together. Ralph: So do you have to conduct any teaching for the fragment that is now Marie? Hope: No. That is not a priority. The only way it would be a priority would be if it were close to the end time of the incarnations and the Master Life Plan is being reached and that fragment has then been designed to be part of the Great Teacher. Then yes. Ralph: Like I am planned to be. Hope: Of course. Ralph: Then you would have a different approach. I’m just saying that in everyday reincarnation, it has only its life experiences and waits for its next life to go forward from where it left off. Hope: That’s all, and when it’s gone through all of its Master Life Plan, it comes to where Becky is and her fragment is over here, and therefore it joins. Ralph: But the interior life teaching that you do is with the Beckies of each person? Hope: Yes. That’s the only one that we teach. Ralph: Now, somebody said that during that time they get to review their previous lives and figure out where they are going to go next. Hope: The Guardian deals with that aspect, we don’t deal with that. Ralph: Is this something that the fragment that is Marie would do between lifetimes, or does she become aware of that at all? Is that only what Becky would become aware of? Hope: The fragment is housed, put away. Ralph: Does Becky review the past, the series, so she has the whole picture at this point? Hope: Right. Ralph: What’s needed next? Hope: That’s part of the training aspect that we give to the higher functioning Essences when they are going to the in-between times. The first number of times it is just a baby going through a learning process, so it could be 500 lifetimes before we would have the Essence up there reviewing all the past lives to see how the picture fits together, to see what had not been processed, what has been left out and so forth, to make sure the Master Life Plan is finished and completed. Ralph: To pick up the pieces and make sure the next culture will include these things'? Hope: Right. This is done on the higher functioning Essences. On Turned Essences, we have to reindoctrinate the avenue of the existence of why they are there. And at that time for their charges, it means even more lifetimes for that Essence to get it correct. And if they choose and refuse to get it correct, then they are given to Charity. [Charity runs another Rehabilitation Center for Turned Essences who will never be reincarnated, such as those guilty of crimes against humanity.]

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Protecting Children

During one discussion in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, she discussed the CIE’s attitude about our society’s desire to protect children from harm in their community. Here is the transcript of that discussion. Ralph: In that regard, they taught us in medical school that 90% of conceptions were spontaneously aborted and only about 10% actually went to term. Nine out of 10 times the body discarded the egg and that’s what you are doing, and we can trust the process. Charity: That’s correct. You cannot, as a human being, state the scenario, regarding the poor mother who does not have a husband, is a drug addict or whatever the case may be, you as a human cannot make a judgment onto what that new human child is going to be. That human child’s Essence needed that atmosphere to be either raised in or not to be born in. It doesn’t matter, but you again as a human being are infringing on our responsibilities as CIE to place an Essence where an Essence has to be placed. Ralph: Well you see we have all these social engineers, like legislators, and my daughter, a social worker. She is a social engineer who goes and looks at these situations and these families. My daughter was taking kids away from cocaine addicted mothers on a regular basis as they were damaging their kids who were born with cocaine in their bodies and such like that. Now for anybody to tell them to leave these babies in these very dangerous situations, the babies will be physically damaged, will require special care for the rest of their lives – that doesn’t make any sense to them. And you are saying they should leave them in that situation and not intervene? Charity: No, you have to remember that the Essence of that human being needs to be there at that particular point in time. The child and the parent have to be there at that point in time. Each family structure is designed specifically for each one of those family members to learn and develop what they have to learn and develop in spiritual growth. Do not take away children from mothers and try to save them. You are again infringing on the CIE’s and the Essences’ responsibility. Ralph: Well, then we get into the area of child abuse and the evils of beating up helpless children, and that’s what some of these women are doing. And you sound as if you don’t mind if the little children get beaten on. Charity: You have to remember – in that aspect, you are thinking of us as heartless human beings. We are not human beings, we are CIE, we design each Essence’s lifetime. Each human’s lifetime has to coincide with spiritual growth. Each human has been in every aspect of every conceivable scenario that any human has ever had or will have. For each human, yourself, you have gone through physical abuse, you have gone through sexual abuse, you have gone through murdering, you have gone through as the victim, you has gone through as the black man, you have gone through as every ethnic race. You have gone through every avenue that can ever happen to a human population. Why would it be natural for the human population that you have grown into now deem it necessary to take out these other ones that are now learning the same kind of avenue that you have learned? Ralph: I am pointing out the American tradition is that we must protect these helpless babies from these inadequate mothers and fathers. That is our social responsibility, so they will have the chance to grow up in a middle class home instead of the low class home they were born into. That is what we pay tons of taxes for. Charity: You have to remember that each one of the Essences was working in that situation. They had to be where they were at that time. Each Guardian was working where they were supposed to be. They were at that spot where they needed to be at. No human needed to interfere. They were where they were supposed to be, they were learning what they needed to be. Period. Ralph: You don’t see that they made a mistake by not calling in for outside help that was physically available? Charity: No. Ralph: I have a hard time with that kind of a view of it, but that’s your view. I wasn’t there, I didn’t have to make their choices. I'm just saying I was not the one with the choice, they had to make that, and they did come through it, the kids were all alive and breathing so you cant argue with the results. Charity: They needed to learn what they needed to learn. Ralph: OK. Charity: Would that the humans should not take away our responsibility. They were in the situation they needed to be before them, that was created for them. Ralph: You remember Elise and her child, whom she took to the CPS for a temporary foster home each time she went into the hospital? You remember the battle I went through with them because three times they were going to put the kid up for adoption? Now, that’s looking after the child from their point of view. That was a major stand of theirs. Charity: That was not looking after the child. Ralph: From their point of view, they thought they were. Charity: From their point of view, yes. But Elise was alive enough to know what was happening. She was taking care of the child. Ralph: That’s why I talked to them. Charity: What the institution was doing with the rules and regulations again was not looking at the avenue with how things were with that family. And you have to remember the family was there at that particular point in time that they needed to be. Don’t change our responsibility. Don’t infringe upon ourselves. We are here. We run the humans' lives. Don’t infringe upon us. Ralph: We will still have plenty of work to do, right? C: Of course. You humans will have plenty to do. We are here. Why try to take it upon yourselves to do it all when we are here?

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Spiritual Teacher's Job Description

This is a recording of a phone call and note from Hope, a Spiritual Teacher CIE, explaining her duties, which are primarily in Thoughtspace. There she teaches Essences between lifetimes in human bodies and runs one Rehabilitation Center for Turned Essences of criminals. Hope, a Spiritual Teacher CIE, called me to give me information on how she runs the schools for Essences. She used as an example of what would happen when I have finished my last lifetime on earth and have been appointed a Baby Essence. First, I would be taught the entire language of the CIE, which would be implanted into me from Hope. I would forget how to speak English. I would be first taught all that I needed to know on how to be an Essence to a living person. Then I would be introduced to the family of the planned baby into which I would go as the Essence in the first lifetime, a simple case for a first termer. I would be allowed to find out what the family structure and dynamics were, and the culture of the society in which the baby would live. I would then get a crash course on the language of the family. Quite possibly the child would be crippled and live only a short time, and I would be responsible for only that limited experience the first time. The next time the child would live longer and have a more complicated life. Hope prefers to consider the phases of various lifetimes as baby, adolescent, adult and senior, just as we have in a life span on earth each time. Each person is at a different point in that growth span, so they have different reactions to what is going on in their lives. We will have life styles of all different kinds, in all different roles and occupations, so that eventually, we have lived all kinds of lives. She talked slowly to be sure to say exactly the right English words for her ideas. I interrupted because my mind was flitting faster than she could talk English, and she thought I was frustrated by her talking so slowly. I had to keep my interruptions down and act as if I was in court, with no one else allowed to talk at the same time. After listening to her, I wrote down what I had heard and sent it to her for approval. Here is what she wrote back to me, calling me “Rudy,” which was her favorite name for me. Each one of the CIE had decided to use a different name when addressing me, so I would quickly know which one was talking. Hope: Rudy, in reviewing your notes on our "communication" with you, regarding the duties of Spiritual Teacher of the Guardian of the Essences, we might not have got our "point" across to you in the "understanding" of what we do. We do understand that our "speaking slowly," is very difficult for a "human" to follow and for the "human" not to "jump" into the conversation before our "phrase" is completed. Our "title", Spiritual Teacher of the Guardian of the Essences, is exactly what it entails. When you, as a new Essence, are brought for training, you will be assigned to your Guardian first and foremost, as that is the most important "first step" that an Essence has to have. As a "first time Essence", then you will arrive in "our school", where you will be given the "entire language of us", so that you will be able to communicate with ourselves and with your Guardian. [The CIE call this the "Original Language", which they say is ancient Sanskrit.] That is where our duties cease with the Essences. Our duties are then with the Guardians and above them we are with the Essences. The Guardians are continually taught by the "Teacher", so that the Guardian can impart the teachings to her Essences. We, therefore, are also "a ladder" between the Guardians and the Professor. We "make reports” on how well the Guardian's Essences are being taught and what the Guardian might need to know for the next life time for the Essence to know. The Professor can then have instructions as to "a change of plans" that might need to happen, in order for the Guardian to instruct the Essence, who then instructs her "charge" by any means at the Essence’s disposal. The Guardians are being constantly taught new and improved information regarding the change in culture, environment, and longevity of the life time that the Essence will be assigned to. We also join with the Guardian, to "perform a miracle" to either save the Essence's charge, or to create other forms of lessons that are needed for the Guardian to pass down to the Essence to then teach the "charge". We are usually given the responsibility of "housing and dealing with turned Essences" that have constantly not listened to us and have become rebellious. They are "invited" to stay for "quite a long time" for training and growth as an Essence. We trust that that answers your questions regarding the duties and responsibilities of the "Spiritual Teacher of the Guardian of the Essences.” In Spiritual Enlightenment HOPE

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Description of the Spiritual Guardian

This paper covers the job description of the Spiritual Guardian of the Essences, first with a phone call by Faith, who is the Guardian of Marie, one of my ex-MPD patients. Next is the transcript of a conversation on the subject of the Guardian with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. Then it continues with a transcript of Faith coming out to talk to me in person. She also refers to Ruth, who is my personal Spiritual Guardian. Michael is my personal Essence. Becky is the dissociated Essence of Marie. Faith phoned me to explain all the duties and responsibilities she and the other Guardians have relating to the Essence of each of us, of which she has 150 to deal with. First, she explained that the Essence is our Life Energy, the Chi, the Kundalini, and that it can be drained by the turned Essence of someone else, as my exwife did to me one night when she went into my bedroom and laid on top of the bed and demanded that I give her an explanation of why I wasn't sleeping in her bed each night. She drained energy from Michael, who was protecting me the best he could, but, when he got dangerously low in energy level, then Ruth, his Guardian, had to take over to get me out of the house. That is why she made sure I got on my clothes and drove away from the house, so that Michael would not be further drained. Michael leaves each night during sleep to get recharged of energy and to continue with the lessons for his charge, me, to learn for the next day and beyond. He only needs to leave a small percentage of himself with me to allow me to sleep at night. But during the day, when I am confronted with others, some of whom will want to sap my energy, then he is there in full force, trying to cope with that demand. But it can only go on so long before I am in danger, and then Ruth must remove me from the scene. If I do not make the physical effort to do so, she would have to take over and move me in some other way. Other duties of the Guardian: 1. Creating situations where I will then make important decisions. At times when I have not been paying attention to Michael's urging to do what needs to be accomplished to fulfill my Life Plan, the Guardian has had to step in and create a situation or encounter(s) which will stimulate me to take appropriate action. An important one was when I was looking for a career direction, and thought of being an architect in the Philippines. I was good at constructing things, like model airplanes, and I thought of doing that with buildings. Ruth wanted me to reconstruct people with MPD, but I didn't think of medicine or psychiatry. So, when I was indecisive and working at Cookie's Restaurant in Ontario, CA, she made the waitress coming to work hold my hand and say, "You've got the hands of a doctor." That was her way of nudging me into the direction of looking at medical school, which would lead to psychiatry as a specialty. 2. Picking my mate. She is the one who finds the husband or wife for the person. Ruth picked my exwife as the perfect one with whom I could live part of my Life Plan, have children, allow her to live longer than other husbands would have, and from whom I would learn first-hand about DID in one's mate. She makes sure that we fall in love without even knowing much about the other one at first, that we get disillusioned with other lovers, and that we feel they are the only ones we cannot live without. 3. Picking family of birth. The Guardian picks the birth family, (mother, father and social group) into which we will be born. It is the one where our Life Plan can be completed properly if we go along with the program. When we are prematurely killed, she then has to find a similar family in a similar culture so that we can start over again and finish up our work in a similar setting. 4. Picking boyfriends and girlfriends. Since we need compatible companions, the Guardian picks our best friends and other close associates, those whom we will he friends with all our lives, from childhood on. (Those whom we stay friends with all our lives are members of the 150 supervised by one Guardian.) These are the ones with whom we have been associated in past lifetimes, too, and can continue with them, as we know their ways and they know ours. These are the people that you are comfortable with as they are not manipulating or playing games with you. They also include early romantic partners, those from whom we learn how to become romantic, so that we are practiced when we meet the one with whom we are to mate. . 5. Picking schoolmates. This is a continuation of more social contacts as in #4. 6. Picking jobs. Each Guardian knows what job each person should hold at each stage of the lifetime and knows the proper job for each one of us. She will steer us to the right job, if we will be flexible enough to not set unrealistic limits. We may have to move, take lower pay, work alone, or work in a group. But the right job is there for us to go to, if we will follow her direction. 7. Picking sequential mates. The Guardian knows if we are supposed to have only one mate per lifetime or several. If we are to have several, she will make sure we become single at the right time, and that the next prospective mate is available and willing at that juncture. She will then push us to get acquainted, so that we will get married. Some people are not to get married, and some are to stay with the first mate and have no more marriages in this lifetime. Each Guardian, with her 150 Essences, has the full range of immature to mature Essences. A few of the immature Essence will turn and decide that they do not want to cooperate with the CIE, want to do things their way, and so they get rebellious. When they are between lifetimes, they then will have to be rehabilitated by the CIE, the level depending on how seriously they have deviated from the plans of The Creator. There are always going to be four or five turning Essences in the 150 of each Guardian. The Guardian of the other party's Essence then has to protect her Essence's charge from the harm of a turned Essence who is trying to sap, or otherwise harm her charge. Psychic attack is very real, as I have described in the past, and is the turned Essence draining energy from the "normal" Essence. The Guardian must step in to protect her Essence when the Essence has lost all the energy that can be spared, so that the charge is able to defend himself against physical harm. [Now we have a transcription of a conversation between myself and Charity.] Ralph: I think it's a nice idea to respect your father and your mother. We've talked about that recently. [in discussion of the Ten Commandments] Charity: Right, but that's just as a child who is growing up, and when you are as a child when you grow up, everything that you are learning culture-wise and value-wise is by the avenue of your parents, as the Guardian has picked out. Correct? Ralph: Yes. Charity: Therefore it has molded you into the human being that you need to be to start listening to your Essence. So this is another rule again that the humans have laid down onto the human race stating that you need to listen to your father and your mother. The Creator does not care if you listen to your father and your mother. He does not have a father and a mother. He is The Creator! The Creator, again, is not human. The Creator is energy. [Here Charity and I discuss how she would like people to get into governmental positions.] Charity: Why would you want to pass something that can't correct a social behavior when your family has instilled what social behavior you need for that culture which you are born into? That the Guardian has selected for you. Why? Ralph: I don't know. Why do we elect these people to office? Charity: Do you vote for them, is that not the term? Ralph: The ones I vote for don't always get there. I wonder about the people that want to go into that. Charity: What we would like to see in your realm of your running your government is not an elected official. It would be basically a position that the Guardian has led that Essence to put their charge into. It's not something for other humans to vote on for that other human being to be into. It is not up to you humans to decide what another human is going to be into if the Guardian has chosen for that one to be in there. If you have chosen to disapprove that one that the Guardian has been told to put into that office, you have therefore deviated from their Life Plan, and you have deviated from your Life Plan and the other ones that have voted it down. Then why would you humans want to judge another human? What we are stating is that why should you humans be judging something that has already been ordained by the Guardians they have? Ralph: No.1, nobody out there voting knows that the Guardians have decided any of this. Charity: That is why it is important when the Project comes out that they will understand that avenue. Ralph: But that is not likely to be an acceptable idea, because they could consider it a con job on the part of the person who said, "My Guardian said I should be president, so here I am!" That's not going to go very far. Charity: There was a precaution to be put onto that avenue for that to never happen. We are not telling you that it is going to happen in your great grandchildren's lifetime. Ralph: I can see that. I'm saying that we would have to change completely the structure of the governmental process. I'm just saying it would seem to me on the surface of it that for somebody to make that assumption, that they are qualified for a leadership role in their society, that they are then going back to the dictatorship role. Charity: You have to remember that if you humans state, as an example, if you humans choose to say, "My Guardian has chosen me to run the country," you would know by that pronouncement that no, that is a falsehood. No human is going to make that pronouncement. No guardian is going to make that pronouncement. It will happen. And for us to go on with this avenue will just bring you more questions. We would rather that we drop this subject and pick it up at another time to go on with it. Ralph: There was an example on TV last night on the training of a man who led the Tartars through Asia, called Attila the Hun. It was a description of his childhood and upbringing that led him to lead the Huns all across Europe as their leader since he was 35 and his father and uncles had all died. Now he was trained from boyhood with all the skills needed to lead his people. There was no lack of training that he was given. He was skilled in everything that he had to do. Now he naturally was seen by everybody who knew him as the most talented horseman, hunter, etc, that there was, and they had no problems in seeing him leading him, because he was trained from age four. Now if that's going to happen, fine, the person is proving himself to his friends and neighbors, but otherwise I don't see how you could expect anybody to follow him [Here I switch to talking with Charity about the different energy levels of the three CIE.] Ralph: OK, now what about Faith, you are of a different origin. OK, now is there any difference how your energy level operates from that of Faith since she has never been in a human body? Is there something, like I'm bread and she's cheese. We are both food. Charity: You will have to talk to her; she is a more expert on herself than we are. Ralph: I'm thinking of you sensing a difference. Charity: We know the difference Ralph: You know the difference, now explain the difference. Charity: Of course there is a difference. You will talk to Faith. Ralph: I'm just checking all these details out. Faith, you showed up. [Now Faith replaces Charity in using Marie’s body to speak to me.] Faith: Mind if I walk? Ralph: I'll walk with you.. . . I've never been credited with a sense of humor. Faith: You have a very wonderful – Ralph: I've been told by a certain exwife of mine that I have no sense of humor. Faith: That's your mate. Ralph: And she has a wonderful sense of humor and she always has such a wonderful one and I don't appreciate it. I've been told that many times. Faith: Well, we would like to see your sense of humor and then maybe we can tell her if she is right or wrong. Ralph: I don't think she wants to talk to you. Faith: We understand. Ralph: She wasn't too friendly the last time you were in the house. Faith: We know. Ralph: Alright, enough of that. We were talking about – Faith: By the way this is Faith. Ralph: This is Faith, right, she is here to explain how she is different in energy operations – it's something we try to use physical words for a non-physical experience, and that's very difficult. Faith: First of all we have to remember the CIE are energy, pure and simple. The Essences are not. The Essences have had physical bodies. They have lived and reacted with other human beings, which we have not. So our energy level is mostly constant. In fact, it is constant. But the process of making it constant is that the humans we have been in contact with or that we talk to who are involved with our Essences that we are in charge of, if we come into contact with too many of the turned Essences, and so forth, then we have to shift our, some of our energy focus unto them. Just like, as Becky was explaining it to you, regarding the energy level situation, I can feed as much energy as she could possibly want to keep her at a certain level. Ralph: Now let me just try to understand the terms again. I'm having to be careful with the English language, because it is based on physical concepts and we are using physically defined words - Faith: Wait a minute, I think we know what you are going to say. OK, if you wanted to define what Becky's energy would be like, it would be like as this leaf. OK, that would be Becky's energy level. Our energy level would be those four trees in a line, with all those leaves. Ralph: Let me back up, it's not exactly what I meant. I'm well aware that just the term energy is not adequate for this because there are at least two kinds of energy, I'm taking this from physics, and light, and what I read recently on the physics of light, OK, and this is why I want to make sure we are using the right terms by a certain definition. Faith: OK, alright. Ralph: In physics, OK, energy is never destroyable. Faith: Correct Ralph: It is only convertible into another form. Now, if you are to pick this [a stick] up, I used energy to pick this up off the ground, because gravity is a type of energy that is pulling it toward the ground. If I drop it, energy is going to apply to it and be called gravity. There is an attraction between all objects. There is an attraction between the object called Earth and this twig. Faith: Right. Ralph: And the reason why this body stands on this Earth instead of floating around is because gravity is the attracting force, energy between this small body and this big body called the Earth. Alright, now that kind of energy is considered to be constant, as far as the total supply is concerned, but my muscular energy could be transformed into gravity energy by dropping the twig. Now, in that book on light, it is quite clear that the energy that you are talking about in mental operations and in Thoughtspace is not the same as the energy that I have to use to pick up the twig or to walk my body around the streets. That is why I say that is convertible, and Einstein made the formula of conversion between mass and energy. Now that we are talking about energy in the Thoughtspace realm, I will have to make an assumption as a question, can it be transformed into anything else? Faith: What are you stating by conversion into something else? Ralph: This twig itself can be burned with a match, and that will transform the energy holding the molecules together, they will be freed, and by the heat applied to it, we transform that into heat energy and light energy. Faith: Right. Ralph: Now, we understand that in physics that that is the way the physical world is put together. Now I hesitate to use that concept of energy in talking about you in Thoughtspace. That's my problem. As I suspect it does not operate the same way. Faith: No. It does not. Ralph: And I might need to have some – Faith: The terms you would understand would be the energy you were talking about, but that's not our energy. Ralph: So it's an energy of a different quality Faith: Totally Ralph: OK, that's where I get confused about declining energy or increasing energy because the energy of the physical world is only transferable. It's not declinable. The total volume is static, and they have done studies all over the universe showing that which we have has been here all the time and has been converted to different shapes and sizes. Faith: Thoughtspace is not that avenue. Ralph: That's what I'm saying, trying to put it into words to describe it creates a problem to me. Faith: Your energy is converted energy and nonconverted energy – place those two together and that is our energy. Plus more. But there is not a term or a phrase that there is in your language that can explain that situation to you. Ralph: I'm aware of that, that's why I'm mentioning this as I don't want people to misunderstand when we use the word energy. The energy that we are converting is not in your area. Faith: No. Energy in Thoughtspace is totally different than the energy level in the physical realm. That's why we are trying to give a for instance of the way the energy is. Becky would be a leaf. I myself would be four trees with all their leaves together. Hope would be twice as many. And Charity would take them all. Ralph: The whole forest. Faith: Right. And lots more. Ralph: I'm just saying that – Faith: By myself feeding that one leaf with my four trees with all of their leaves, would be depleting my reserves that I have. Especially when I am feeding it to one Essence. Ralph: When you have 150 to look after, and all of them have troubles. Faith: That's right. By those four trees, I'm going to wear very thin on leaves. So by wearing very thin on my leaves, I must call on Hope for help, "We need to do something about replenishing my trees here. I'm running very, very low. How about replenishing?" Hope will say, "No problem, let's get everything under control, and you guys come up here for a while. We will send somebody else down there that's got a little bit more trees than you do that doesn't need as many leaves right now, and they can take over for you." We say, "That's fine," and we go away. When we come back, my four trees are back, my leaves are back on the branches and I'm ready to start again. Ralph: It's like in a bank, you build up your account with a transfusion of money from the central bank in Philadelphia or somewhere. Faith: Right Ralph: We are doing that all the time. Faith: What I am stating on human terms it's about the best I can describe it. Ralph: The question I have then in that energy, is there a fixed amount that is in the universe, like we say a fixed amount of physical energy is on this globe? Faith: A fixed amount of energy – No. It is not a fixed amount. Ours is a never ending supply. Ralph: So that gets into the infinite capacity of the whole space. Faith: If you can describe the infinite capacity Ralph: So you are never going to run out, no matter what we do down here. Faith: No. Ralph: That's nice to know. Faith: But the only avenue of what, for ourselves, for why we had been stripped of our leaves so fast was because of the avenue of the way Becky needed our help. That's why, if we remember correctly, there were two or three times when we said we had to disappear for a while. But once we disappeared and came back, everything was just fine. It's just a matter of the extreme emergencies that we had to deal with. Ralph: The emergencies were caused by the human emotions Faith: Correct Ralph: And the use of free will by the false front and all the personalities. Faith: And by the other therapists and the other individuals that were involved and were becoming involved with whole process of getting Becky's charge back to the way it was. And the reason why it was so important was that Becky's charge is to do what she is doing now, to bring you back into the path you need to be on. That's why it was so important that our energy level was going down because it was important that it happened at a certain point in time and that it would come back to now. Ralph: You had a very good reason to put out all the work, because of the goal to hold her together. Because you have to have her vocal cords. If you don't have her vocal cords, I'm not recording anything. Faith: That's correct, you aren't. Ralph: Then I wouldn't have anything to type. Faith: That's correct. Then you would feel very comfortable and wouldn't have to worry about any fights, correct? Ralph: I don't think it would change a bit in that subject, but it would be nice to think it would, but it wouldn't so I might as well go ahead and write. Faith: Right Ralph: I'd get the fights anyhow. Faith: No matter what Ralph: I should get some rewards after all this time. Faith: That's correct. Ralph: Alright, we are talking, you can't measure the energies in Thoughtspace, we are talking about the light of the universe, the light of wisdom, that kind of light, people see a light at the end of the tunnel, in OOBE there is a light. Those kind of lights are not shining from the sun with physical photons. And therefore you couldn't use the rules of physics that measure photons Faith: Because there are no rules. Ralph: Because it isn't the same. Faith: It's not measurable Ralph: There are no tools to measure it Faith: No. Just as Charity told you, there are no tools to measure it. Just as there are no rules in our realm. Ralph: That's a problem. In physical space, the only way you know something is there is to have a tool to measure it. Faith: Correct Ralph: Like I have an eye to see this, I have a hand to touch this, and these are my physical tools, and I can take a measuring device and all that. Faith: You can't measure a thought. Ralph: I can't measure any of you people. Therefore, people say, "You obviously don't exist if we can't measure you." Faith: You could take your calibers in the air and describe one of ourselves. Ralph: But that would only be hoping I would get a bit of air between them and you are not in the air. Faith: No. Ralph: Then that gets into a belief system. And that gets into another area – I heard about belief systems creating that which you believe. Faith: OK Ralph: And that seems to be true. Which presents a great problem to people wondering what reality is. Because that culture has their belief system over there and what they believe in exists, but only for them. Faith: Right Ralph: But this culture over here has another belief system and what they believe exists for them, and neither one recognizes the other one as existing. Faith: That is correct. Ralph: That gets to be a problem. Faith: Does that explain it to you adequately? Ralph: Well, it's a hint, let's put it this way. You give me – if we had the drawings for this building when they were going to build it. We now have a sketch as to what the building might look like, when this was flat ground, and people were sitting around trying to decide what kind of a building to put here. You have given me the outline and sketch, it’s got these corners and some windows, but we don't have what we call the schematics with the details. We don't have the bathrooms laid out inside. Faith: We don't have any of those – Ralph: I know, the details, we need to start with a sketch, that’s all I can handle today. Then they go back and say, "Now we can fill in the details here." We will get to it later. I'm not pushing. Right now we have what they call the artist's conception of the building. If you ever meet an architect, they draw this beautiful picture of what they would like to see. Faith: Right Ralph: Then they sit down with, "How many pieces of wood do we have to have, and how many window panes do we have to have," all that gets filled in later when they are sure the function will fit into the space they have laid out, you know. They have to look at the function they are going to do with this building. And that is where you have functions to do. Faith: Of course. Ralph: And those functions have to fit within the energy you have Faith: You had asked Becky why we were so happy? Ralph: You are uniquely happy among the others. That seems to be a personal characteristic. I don't see how that is hooked up with Intelligent Energy. That seems more human. Faith: Because you humans are more inclined to talk to a entity, especially on our first level, to someone that is friendly, someone that is jovial, and someone that is very – has nothing to hide. Therefore you can bare your souls. Ralph: May I ask how come you haven't had Ruth talk through there, so I can settle all these things with my relatives? Faith: Now if Ruth talked to you, you would swear, that's a term that you humans use, that you are "nuts." Correct? Ralph: I've been accused of that by many people. Faith: But to have you be able to talk to Ruth is not going to happen. Ralph: Well, now, you are avoiding the possibility. Faith: We are not avoiding the possibility. Ralph: If you think I would go nuts, that's not much faith in me. Faith: You have to remember you have been talking to ourselves quite a long time. You feel more comfortable with ourselves. Ralph: Ok, let's put it this way, I get the message that you can get all the information from Ruth you want that I could possibly use, so you don't need to bother her at all. Faith: But you are curious. Ralph: Let me put it this way, if it were somehow necessary, I bet you could do it. If you could do it, then any of the other Guardians could do it. And you are not a unique Guardian to do this. You are build like all the other Guardians I have to assume. Faith: Of course. Ralph: Therefore they have come out in various bodies in various times when they had a reason to talk to somebody on a clear warning. Faith: Ruth has talked to yourself several times. Ralph: Ruth has talked to me several times? Well could you give me a sample that I didn't recognize. Because one time I recognized I was taking "to myself." That was in Toronto when I was going down the street to the drugstore to get something and I heard myself saying that my exwife was going to jump out the window. Now all I know my voice was saying, "Ralph, you've got to get back," and I was literally talking to myself. Faith: But that was Ruth that was talking to you. Ralph: How can you tell when you have your own same voice? Faith: How would you like for her to talk differently? Ralph: It would make it very clear that it wasn't me. Faith: It sounds that you are getting curious about her. Ralph: It's just that if I'm going to tell anyone there's a Ruth, how can I guarantee it isn't me talking to myself. We all have that phase. We talk to ourselves to reach a conclusion. That is a perfectly average human concept. And you are saying I'm talking to something called Ruth. That's hard for me to prove to anybody. Why should they believe me? Faith: It sounds like you are challenging us. Ralph: I am. If I am going to be challenged, I want to be prepared to handle these challenges. Faith: Do you want to be able to talk to Ruth? Is that the question? Is that the request of the day? Ralph: I didn't make this a request of the day. I'm talking about the possibility – I'll make the assumption the possibility exists. Faith: Of course, She does exist, and, yes, you can talk to her. All you have to do is have clearance. Ralph: And have some kind of a good reason, which I don't at the moment. Faith: Which you don't. Ralph: Ok, so I don't have a good reason. But – Faith: Curiosity is not a good reason. Ralph: I understand that, but you are not going to eliminate it. It comes with the package. Faith: We knew [Here Faith disappears, to be replaced by Charity.] Charity: Let us state something first of all about the Guardian If the mother of an unborn child becomes physically sick or something is to happen so that woman’s child is not to be horn, it will happen per the Guardian’s edicts. Ralph: OK, then another word would have been, “The Guardian Angel did it." Charity: They are half right on that avenue. They are half right. What they term as Guardian Angels is what the humans have chosen to perceive the CIE, ourselves, as. We are not that, we are an energy field, pure and simple. But an energy field in your context is not what we are. They are close to what it is. The Guardian will come into play if it needs to be. The Essence is in charge of each individual and the Guardian interplays with them. Ralph: If we left it up to you folks, and since Faith is involved in finding jobs for people, how would you go about creating positions that people could fill for work purposes? That seems to be that humans have to collaborate together on inventing things so they build a factory. Charity: You will need to talk to Faith on that. Ralph: It is still in an area where we don’t see you folks putting a factory there somewhere so we can work at it. Charity: Humans will have to build it, or course, but it is Faith’s responsibility to bring about the workers that will be needed for that factory. Ralph: But who decides what kind of factories there will be? Charity: You humans decide that. Ralph: In Russia, before the overthrow of the Communist government, they tried to match up every student who graduated and went onto the labor market with a job. Everybody was supposed to have a job. That was the government's policy. Charity: That was a human telling another human how to operate and how to do it sufficiently. Ralph: True. This is ultimately control, but if the CIE were to wish this group of people to have jobs, and somehow they have got to have job openings come about in equal numbers and types. And I don’t know how the CIE could do that. Charity: Let us have you talk to Faith. [Now Charity retreats to be replaced by Faith.] Ralph: All right. Hi, Faith. Faith: I promise I will not walk around, will that be OK? You are looking at the positions that we give to the charges, correct? Ralph: I’m looking at the whole system, because you have to have an equal number of openings to match the bodies being born that will graduate from school and are ready to go to work. Faith: Of course. Ralph: And what I am wondering what can you folks possibly do to bring about #1, the number of openings that are going to be needed, and again of the proper variety? You can’t have all factories; you can’t have all think tanks. Faith: It comes about the way that it comes about – if we described how we make them come about, the words are not there to describe it in the English language Ralph: Humans have an influence in companies being formed, factories being available and we have tremendous dislocations with companies – one company is firing 2,000 workers. All those people have got to have a job somewhere. Faith: Of course. Ralph: How can you come up with 2,000 jobs all of a sudden for those people who got fired? Faith: They are there. Ralph: I don’t know anybody who has got them to find them, and those people get awfully hungry waiting for one to show up. Faith: The jobs might not be in that central location where they were at. The jobs might be elsewhere. But they need to listen first. They have to have the contact with the Essence first, to be able to know where they are at. We will lead and guide them. But until they will listen and have the communication going, they are not going to. They are going to be relying on their own human characteristics to carry them through. Ralph: A simple case I had was my daughter Jill. She got a teaching certificate and everyone agreed she was a good teacher. Faith: And she would not go – Ralph: Anywhere that the jobs existed. Faith: That’s right. And you notice how long it took her to get a position. Ralph: And I'm the one she blames for not supporting her all that time while she waits till her boyfriend’s area has a job. Faith: Correct. But we had the openings for her. She had to go there. But she was using her free will to exercise not going there. Ralph: Oh, I heard that, yes. I'm very well aware. In a case of that, had she been flexible, as most young people are, you go where the job is, she could have locked in on one. Faith: One was available for her immediately, but – Ralph: But she wouldn’t move. Faith: Yes. Each human has a position that has been designed for them. Ralph: So you are matching up the creation of jobs, people going into company creation, small business creation with those who want to fill jobs. Faith: Correct. Ralph: So you will have both working in the same – you have to have limits on borders they can cross, you have to have travel ability, they might be in China for all they know. Faith: Correct. Ralph: Like this one man who gave the talk today, he has to travel all over the world, that’s where he does his work. Bulgaria or Czech. or Taiwan. He never seems to be without a job. Faith: You, we don’t have limits. We are not limited. We don’t have that. You humans have that. You do not see the picture as we see it. Ralph: Now let’s look at the picture in California. We have a major problem with Mexicans coming across the border for jobs. They are working hard, they are trying very hard to support their families, and they do that. The Mexican culture has very few jobs available, and they are breeding people all over the place, so they have more and more people and nobody is making jobs down there. So they are all coming to California, Arizona, Texas, to get work. And they are taking on those jobs that many Americans will not do, like stoop labor in the fields, and stuff that we consider beneath us, but they will hustle. Why haven’t you set up a few jobs in Mexico for them so they can stay home where they have their families? I would think that would be better than having them come and end up in California. Faith: Where are the humans that they are taking the jobs away from? Why don’t those humans start doing the jobs? Ralph: I don’t know why they won’t do it. But they won’t. They are not going to do it as long as the Mexicans keep coming in. Faith: But as we understand correctly the avenue of the Mexican government is that they are doing something about that now? Ralph: I was just listening on the radio that there is – the problem is that they talk about it, at the highest levels, but they don’t do anything about it. Faith: Correct. Ralph: Now what you do have is a new trade agreement and that’s coming along. Faith: Which will create more positions down where you stated. Ralph: Actually, one of the major problems in Mexico is that the country is run by a very few families who control everything else. It’s not like the US where anyone can set up a business and make a pile of money. Down there you have 5% but everyone else is in the working poor. Faith: Again, as Charity has stated, it is a control issue. Give up the control and let us do our job. Ralph: And you could encourage these people to make more jobs available right where they lived if they weren’t being controlled by somebody else. Faith: Correct. Ralph: OK, I have no argument on that one. Faith: We thought you would understand. Ralph: This is the trouble when Jill went down there, that is what she learned, that the Castillian Spanish group controlling the other 95% that were the Aztec, Mexican native group that are on the bottom. They are the ones who are coming up to the US to find the work. Faith: Yes. Does that answer your question on the job situation? Ralph: You have got to eliminate international barriers for the jobs to be available to the bodies, because you are not only looking at the US, or Canada or Mexico or Guatemala. Faith: We are looking after the whole thing. Ralph: There is a whole area that you have the responsibility for. Faith: Correct. Ralph: Which is going be many countries, so if we let people travel, they will find whatever they need. Faith: They will be led. If they follow number one, there will be something in there. Ralph: Now we are in a different era of jobs. The production era is coming to a close. The industrial era is being replaced by the Information Era. Bill Gates and the Internet being an example. They are not selling a "thing". They are selling a capacity to interchange and share information. Which means you can live anywhere in the world nowadays. And now we are getting the governments interfering in that because they want to set limits Faith: They want to control. [Charity comes back and replaces Faith.] Charity: But the process is for you humans to continue to fight. Continue to use Free Will because that is what makes yourself happy. Continue to do it. We will continue to have our way. So why fight?

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Groups

Below is the transcription of a discussion with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, in 1995, regarding activities of groups of human beings. Ralph: How are you going to get all those people to do those kind things? If they don’t come through a religion, where do they get indoctrinated? At the same time, you have a lot of religious people in those groups who were not very nice. We have stories of the nuns who beat the little children, and the priests that molested them in the school down in Santa Barbara. There were a lot of unpleasantries with children they were in charge of. So are you planning on filling the gaps that religions cover? Right now they are having a hard time recruiting new priests and nuns. Charity: We know. Ralph: There are not many people interested in those careers. Charity: That should explain that, should it not? That should tell you how the religions are going to be. Ralph: They are getting wilder and wilder with all these radicals who are bombing abortion mills, Charity: Humans do not want to associate with those kinds of Christians. And the religions as they are will not be existing. As you can see with the shift in the avenue that the religions have to decrease at the same time the humans become involved with their Essences. Ralph: The thing is – lodges are large groups, governments are large groups, individuals are not large groups, each Essence is not a large group. Charity: Correct. Ralph: There are certain things that require large groups of people for the varieties of talents. Where are we going to get these large groups? That would be my question. Charity: Large groups – why? Ralph: Because you need a variety of people. Charity: You will have them. They are all around, are they not, all the time? Ralph: I don’t know. Charity: Are you not a member of a group, Rotary? You have that kind of group, correct? Ralph: Is that group OK? It is not a religion. Charity: Did we state it was not? Ralph: I'm just asking. It was another group which has not done this. They do not tell you what to believe. Charity: You have a group of individuals who are together. Ralph: And they try to help other people. Charity: Correct. You have groups of individuals around here who might be concerned about neighbors. Ralph: Neighborhood groups, yes. Charity: You have groups that are all around. You have humans who that are interested on learning how to dance and to socialize. So therefore you are going to go out there. Ralph: And to the computer club. Charity: Of course. Ralph: So you are seeing these kind of interest groups. The Internet has interest groups all over the place. You know how firm they are against telling anyone how to believe. Charity: Yes. Ralph: That’s not an acceptable process. You have interest groups all over the place. So you see them as replacing the group forces. We have religious groups who build hospitals. We have other groups that can do that who are not religious groups. Charity: Right. Ralph: We don’t want to do away with things that are doing well. Charity: We are going to stop with this avenue.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Government

Below is another conversation I had with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, in 1995. This is about personal freedom, elections, and the way the Spiritual Guardian picks our jobs for us. Ralph: The United States is set up as the forefront country in the world in propagating the idea of individual freedom for all residents to use their potential and not submit to control by their government. We have this going on all the time, and we go to other countries to blast the hell out of them and blockade them, like Cuba, because they won't give freedom to their residents. China right now is the latest one. Charity: Therefore what you humans are choosing to do is to enforce your rules that you humans have made onto your continent area, to enforce that rule to other human beings in other parts of the globe. Why? Ralph: What I'm saying in this regard is what we are seeking is that we want those other governments to give their citizens freedom – that's the big word – to use their own potentials as best they can. Charity: But it is not freedom. You humans can do whatever you feel like to do, without hurting another human being. Is that not correct? Ralph: The freedom that I'm talking about is political freedom from being told by a government where you are going to live, how far you can travel, who you should marry, what job you're going to have, where you're going to live, and all those kind of personal kind of things that all of us are perfectly capable of choosing for ourselves. Charity: Alright, you state that kind of freedom. That kind of freedom is fine if you humans choose to accept that kind of freedom. But what about the freedoms that you are taking away from the human beings with the rules and the laws and more laws that you humans are passing. Answer that question. Michael, you answer. Michael (Ralph’s Essence): Because they have politicians who want to control things, they have their own view and they say, "This is the way we're going to do it because I feel this is the way it should he done." They are creating rules, which, when you look at them, you say, "OK, we write this law and that is supposed to make social behavior, eliminate certain social behavior.” This doesn't really make much sense because passing a law will not stop somebody from doing something. Charity: Why would you want to pass something that can't correct a social behavior when your family has instilled what social behavior you need for that culture which you are born into – that the Guardian has selected for you? Why? Michael: I don't know. Why do we elect these people to office? Charity: Do you vote for them, is that not the term? Michael: The ones I vote for don't always get there. I wonder about the people that want to go into that line of work. Charity: What we would like to see in your realm of your running your government is not an elected official. It would be basically a position that the Guardian has led that Essence to put their charge into. It's not something for other humans to vote on -- for that other human being you think needs to be into. It is not up to you humans to decide what another human is going to be into if the Guardian has chosen for that one to be in there. If you have chosen to disapprove of that one that the Guardian has been told to put into that office; you have therefore deviated from their Life Plan, and you have deviated from your Life Plan and the other ones that have voted it down. Ralph: Could I introduce the fact that in ancient Athens in Greece, I understand, they did exactly that? Charity: Thank you. Ralph: They had all members of the legislature picked by lottery Charity: That's not the term we're talking about. Ralph: I'm saying that all, in this case only, males were considered equally competent to go into the legislature, and they just chose by lot who would go to the legislature. They didn't run for election, nobody had to have campaigns, nobody voted, but they got a very representative sample of the citizens who did quite well. I'm just saying the fact that they were led in there by that method instead of election turned out well. Charity: That is an avenue that we had instilled unto that culture, but they had taken it further by still drawing a lot instead of letting the Guardian take over. Ralph: You could still decide whose lot gets drawn. Charity: Correct. Ralph: I'm saying that this avoided the question of elections and all the ramifications of campaign contributions and all that. Charity: But what we are concerned about is because of your avenues, because your globe is not being run, is that you humans are choosing what individuals need to be running your globe's affairs, and therefore the ones that we have sought are not in there, and they should be in there. And then each course of all humanities that are on the globe their courses are not clearly laid out; they are deviating from where they should be. Ralph: Well, I think you have just hit another sacred cow. This was just the latest. I want to bring to your attention that our election process as a republic, which, if you note, is that all of us are represented by a representative who goes to the central headquarters to vote on these issues with the other elected people. We don't directly vote on the issues from home. That is another suggestion however, with the Internet, that we could do that. But at this moment – Charity: You humans are even choosing to change the design of the Internet to cause them to get on to that. Ralph: I'm just pointing out that we have a second hand vote through our representatives. Charity: What we would also like to see, as we told you, is that the monetary system be abolished, but we are working towards that now. Ralph: Well, I don't think I will be around here to see that. We consider this particular style of electing representative to be a great improvement over what most of the world has, who don't have the choice to elect anybody. And who gets to run the government is somebody who shot the other president.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on God's Revenge

This is another conversation I had with Charity, a Professor CIE, and my spiritual mentor, in 1995. We discuss the human view that God has a lot of rules for us to follow, and if we don’t, He will punish us severely. Ralph: Another basic concept that is throughout our religious literature is that if we violate one of God's commandments, then he will punish us. That has been stated over and over again since the Old Testament was written. It's a major thesis in our culture. Charity: But is it not a fact. How can The Creator be a revengeful Creator and not a loving Creator? The Creator does not care, does not have any desire, is a non-form, does not have human feelings that you humans have, so how can it be a vengeful God? Ralph: That is why I was bringing it to your attention as a major belief system in our world today. It seems to contradict what you've been saying. Charity: The answer is that what you humans have chosen to do is to have the Creator as a human being instead of what the Creator is, and that is an all seeing, all knowing entity, a energy force on this globe and others Ralph: They also add onto that an all-judging entity who knows when you have done right or wrong and will punish you when you have done wrong. Charity: There is no punishment aspect in our realm, there is no punishment. There is a relearning tool, there are instructionals, there is tutoring, there are lessons to be reinforced, hut there is never a punishment or a judgment laid down. A judgment and a punishment are human terms. We do not operate in that avenue. Ralph: It's kind of hard for somebody paddle somebody in Thoughtspace, isn't it? Charity: There are no forms. Ralph: That's what I'm saying. It can't be done. Charity: No. Ralph: No paddles available. Charity: We have ways of emphasizing our points, but those are for the Essences that will never be sent down again to inhabit another human form. But there are no judgments, there are no edicts. There are no rules. There is no vengeance laid down. There is compassion, there is patience in teaching. These are all human words, you know. But there is no judgment, no persecution or any kind of aspects of that because we do not have that capacity. Ralph: That's the problem we've been laid on, that the Jewish God was a very vengeful God who laid down all these rules. You couldn't eat this, you couldn't do something on the Sabbath. There is a whole list of rules for the Orthodox Jew who thought that God was going to do some horrible thing to them if they couldn't follow them. Charity: The Creator does not care what the human does because the human is a carcass. The Essence is what's important. Ralph: But this is the image. I remember my preacher-father speaking that, when Christ came, he presented a different, a loving forgiving God who didn't expect you to follow all these rules or you were a bad boy from the moment you were born. That puts an impossible burden on people. Charity: Of course. That is a human concept that is supposed to make humans perfect, and therefore can be The Creator. Ralph: That would be obviously be the goal – if you know all the rules of the Lord, then, if you follow all of those rules, you obviously are just like God. You are always going to miss one of them and that is where you fail.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Gnostics

This is a conversation I had with Charity, a Professor CIE, and Hope, a Teacher CIE, in 1995, when I was studying some books by Biblical scholars regarding those early Christians who did not accept the teachings of the bishops of the early Christian Church. They were known as Gnostics, and they claimed to have direct superior knowledge of spiritual matters. Charity: What you have to realize is that in that realm of cultures, our teaching aspects were basically to the humans alone. There was nothing that was trying to do our talking for the humans. It was ourselves doing the teaching. Ralph: They were all Gnostics? You did not have a professor sitting there collecting students to teach? Charity: What you have quoted in terms of us as priests or pastors or reverends or bishops, the pope, there was none of that. Our teaching was direct at that point in time. When part of the Great Teacher came down onto your earth. Ralph: The one called Christus - Charity: The one that has been called Jesus Christ, Ralph: I'm saying that it was a matter of the times, and there were the Gnostics who were saying, "Look to your Essence and listen and pay attention since that is where you are getting all the answers." Also, they could only deal with highly mature people. They could not deal with baby Essences. Obviously they were not ready for this. Now, when you are doing that, you are dealing with a small percentage of the total population. Maybe 8% of the population can do that to begin with. A church can't afford to operate on only 8% of the population. They need a lot more to pay the costs to run those churches and to fill up its seats. So the bishops decided that they must make it easier to get into their church. So all they needed to do was say, "Everybody come in here, say this little ritual, dunk your head under water, and be baptized, and you can be a member." Now it's a lot easier to get a lot of people that way then to expect them to learn anything while maturing. Charity: So, in other words, believing in something that will take care of you humans for a eternity is a lot easier than trying to come to the realization yourself that you are what you are and you need to take care of yourself along with others. Is that not correct? Ralph: I'm pointing out that the Gnostics were interested in personal spiritual improvement. And they spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to do this, the same as I have. Charity: Of course you have. Ralph: And they had their teachers, like you, trying to assist them in this search. OK. They didn't get many people joining their little groups because not too many people wanted to sit around and try to improve themselves by philosophizing. Charity: It was too difficult? Ralph: Yes, and there is only a certain small portion of any society that are interested in doing that. There are others out there more interested in raising cows, or collecting taxes, or running armies, or doing those things they got praised for by the other people. Well, the church decided they couldn't afford to run on only this small portion of society that were looking for truth within. They wanted to be available to the masses. They went after the other 92% instead of the 8% who were Gnostics. Now what are these other 92% doing? You give them a simple set of rules. "You can become a member of our club if you will swear allegiance to our leader, pray to our leader, say hello to our flag, and follow this little set of rules.” You can learn that in five minutes. But to sit and think and philosophize and learn about yourself, that takes years. They weren't going to wait around for that. Charity: We can understand that. Ralph: So they wanted a volume of people who would fill up the churches. Who are folks going to lead around if they don't have a mass group? They are not going to lead Gnostics around. Gnostics aren't even going to listen to bishops in the first place. Charity: Ok, you're correct. Ralph: So that's where the organized churches went for the masses. To do that, you have a baptism, you have a ritual, you have a small code of beliefs. "Jesus Christ died, etc." Believe that – you're in. "Yes, I believe in Jesus Christ." Well, our inmates out at prison are doing this all the time in the chapel. They are very immature people spiritually. Charity: Of course. Ralph: But they become part of the whole worldwide body of Christ this way. Now, that's quite an accomplishment for people who have been on the outs. Charity: Right, we understand that. Ralph: So, that was a very practical way to go instead of expecting – you're not going to recruit into the church very many Gnostics because they are not going to listen to the bishop. Charity: Right Ralph: They are of no use whatsoever in raising money to build a new chapel. [Here Charity leaves and is replaced by Hope, a Spiritual Teacher.] Hope: We keep telling yourselves to keep looking inside at Michael. Ralph: That is the Gnostic view of things versus the religious hierarchical view where only the bishop knows how you should think. Hope: If you humans chose to relinquish listening to your Essences, then that is your choice. Ralph: Well, obviously I don’t, but now the other thing is that we are in a cultural shift now. Hope: You are going totally off our field. Ralph: No I'm not. Because what you are teaching is for us taking responsibility for number one, our thinking, secondly, our actions. Hope: Of course, Ralph: Now if we can keep that concept in mind, personal responsibility, and not passing on to you or Charity or anybody else. Hope: That is most correct. You humans have to do it on your own. We are here to guide you, to find your own answers. Ralph: And you have supplied the Essence who has the answer for that particular issue you have a question about. Hope: What you need to do is contact it and find it. A lot of humans have it buried so far beneath them that they it’s impossible at times to find it.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Fertility Clinics

Below is a conversation I had in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor. We were discussing how the use of fertilization clinics interfere with the function of the Spiritual Guardian in providing Essences for each newborn baby on schedule. Ralph: One of the programs I heard on the radio coming over here was an interview with the head of a center for high tech fertilization techniques, making babies when the mothers do not get pregnant. Charity: But fertilizing is what you make something grow with. Ralph: I understand, but this is used in the sense of the egg in a mother’s ovary is fertilized by the sperm to make a baby. It is woman being fertile like land being fertile. But the point is that these women and men, their husbands, have used every other natural technique available and have not been able to have the woman get pregnant. They have had infections and surgery, so they go to the fertilization clinic and try to create a baby by some means where the fertilization takes place outside the body, like in a test tube. They get an egg and a sperm from the parents and grow them and then implant them in the mother to overcome the physical limitations the mother has for getting pregnant in the normal way. Now it was interesting listening to this because you had people talking about this being something every couple has the right to do, and we should spend all this money on this, and every woman has the right to become a mother and spend as much of our finances as necessary to achieve this. Yet other people get pregnant without any trouble whatsoever the first day they get married. I am just wondering what – we get a lot of these high tech maneuvers that are involved in basic human functions like this. Life support is just one at the other end. This is at the start. What do you think of that? Charity: We want to call it a concern. Ralph: Interestingly, we just had a clinic like that in Orange county be investigated for fraud and corruption. They were giving the embryos to the wrong people without permission. It pretty well destroyed their operation. Charity: You know, for ourselves, the Guardian picks out the family and the culture that the human is to be born into, and to grow in. When a human cannot become pregnant, that is because it is not designed for it. But what is happening is the humans in your medical profession are attempting to circumvent what we have chosen to stop. Ralph: That’s my concern, we could end up with all kinds of -- Charity: That’s why we are having to go about not being able to have – you are overpopulating – we are overpopulating on Essences. Your human species, your medical profession has a wrong idea on certain aspects. Regarding the aspects of keeping the human alive forever, no, stop. To create life, as you would state it, physical life, that needs to be curtailed, that does not need to happen. Ralph: The Guardian now has a new baby being born the next month it hadn’t planned on. What happens? Charity: We have to go and find an Essence that will go into it, by pulling off someone or making sure one of the Essences is in the last lifetime, and the charge that they have is basically at the very last one, but sometimes it doesn’t quite meet the last one, so we can go ahead and usher it in. Or The Creator has to develop or we have to send them through school faster for more Essences. It’s impossible sometimes to make sure that each human species has the correct Essence for that time. The humans are choosing to create a physical life again before we are ready for it. Ralph: That’s what I wondered about it. Charity: You are creating a dangerous part of it for that new life, itself, because we have to curtail another one to have that one ready for an Essence in training. While the other Essence can separate and go into that one when that other life had not been planned. Ralph: Again this is the kind of thing that I can see is interfering in everybody else’s plans but those of the mother and father who think, "I deserve a baby." They feel that is their God given right to have a baby, and they are being cheated if they don’t have their own. Now that doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of them available, such as foster children, adopted children, but they don’t want somebody else’s children. There is a code that they have. Charity: There is a code that has been passed down to them from generation to generation for society. Their society has cultivated that falsehood. Ralph: Then I look at my own daughter who has had all this trouble getting pregnant, and I can understand your concern. I had no problems with it, but you are not going to tell her that she isn’t as good a mother as every other woman on her block whose got three or four kids. That is to her an insult. Charity: You also have the humans who are producing more children in laboratories. If you, on one hand, as physicians, create new life and on the other hand you extend the lives of other humans, we need Essences. Ralph: Well, somebody. Charity: You are doing our jobs. Ralph: It seems somebody in Orange county, south of L.A., took care of one of those fertility clinics and closed it down because the doctor in charge started giving babies to the wrong people. And he’s down in Mexico. Charity: Yes, Ralph: So somehow that didn’t work out. Charity: No, Ralph: It could be a hint for the others Charity: Which it is. Ralph: Of course they see this as one man who was aberrant. Charity: Of course. Ralph: Now he is trying to get more Mexican children to be born. They don’t need anymore Mexican children to be born. Charity: They don’t need anymore to be born at this time. They need to recycle the older ones. Ralph: OK, now, Charity: You humans choose to dabble in our responsibilities. Why? Can you answer that question for ourselves?

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Destructive Feelings

Below is a brief conversation I had in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE, and my spiritual mentor. Charity: What the humans are doing, they are not voting at all, correct? Ralph: A lot of them don’t. A lot of them don’t want anything to do with it this year. Cathy was talking that way, and that’s understandable. Charity: All humans feel that way. It is a feeling again. If the humans relied on what was inside themselves and talked that way and conversed that way, you would find an intellectual basis and awareness that no human has ever been able to tap into. Ralph: I would suspect a lot of people don’t think there is any of this intellectual mind in the other people that they despise. They see them only in terms of the feelings they are putting out that make them have bad feelings towards them. Charity: To see who can be destroyed faster. Ralph: They talk about attitudes, but their attitudes are, "I hate that group or that group hates me." Charity: Of course, it’s like your wars. It is the same avenue, of different groups, of different colors, different heights, different weights. Ralph: Then we have the situation within the same culture where the two Iraqi men went back home, got divorced and got shot by their own relatives as being disgraceful to the family. Charity: Yes, we know. Ralph: It didn’t sound like any improvement in our society. Charity: That is not that. This society, the cultures that are now here on your globe, is destructive. Ralph: It is enough trouble like you have in the Old Yugoslavia, you’ve got three different cultural groups fighting each other. Here you have the same cultural group killing its own members. Charity: Why do humans insist on destruction instead of talking? Ralph: Now that’s an excellent question I don’t have an answer for. We should discuss that more. Charity: Yes. Why? Talking is more interesting, more of having an awareness, but destruction – you are destroying a human being with machinery, with your monetary values. There is nothing left soon to destroy except for your own selves.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Families of Essences

Charity has taught me that each Essence is in charge of one human being, and each Spiritual Guardian is the protector of 150 Essences and their “charges.” However, in my case, I have repeatedly been working with people whose Spiritual Guardian is not Hope, who is the one in charge of Marie, my ex-patient with MPD. Hope is one of the CIE whom I was able to interview when she borrowed Marie's body. Faith and Charity told me my personal Spiritual Guardian is named Ruth, and she is also the Guardian for a number of my friends who became involved in learning the lessons Charity and the other two CIE, Faith & Hope, were trying to teach me. They explained that Faith's 150 Essences & their charges were mixed with 150 Essences & charges supervised by Ruth, so all 300 are in one work group for the purpose of helping Charity with this project. Charity is the Project Manager for The Creator in bringing to an end The Great Deception. In this discussion with Charity, in 1995, we talk about how these two groups of 150 each have been working together in many prior incarnations. Charity: What would you like to know? Ralph: We have these two families of 150 each who seem to be interlinked at this point, at least here with these people. Charity: Would you like to know how it first started? Ralph: I would like to know anything. I don’t know the history of any of this. Charity: All right. The ground of it started when each one of the Inner Circle had already been into things since the time when each one had started their Life Plan. Each one has either been a part of each other’s development, such as a family member, a coworker, such as a boss and a employee, in all stages, in all developments. Each one has been assigned to all. All of yourselves has been in every stage of each other’s Life Plans. Ralph: You are talking about the two groups of 150 apiece? They have been interlocked? Charity: Intermixed, yes. The reason that they have been intermixed so much is because of one avenue and one avenue only. That is to be able to get the publication of the book out, and that is to also change the cultural perspectives from the way it is now. Ralph: That is a big chore. Charity: It is not. Ralph: It requires a lot of people being involved in different places. Charity: As you can see, each of the 150, or as you would quote, the two families, are there. What you also have to realize is that the two families, the families of each one of the individuals that have been interlinked with ours, their CIE and their Essences, are also in tune with it, such as Cathy’s son. It is a perfect example. He has a total other way of going; he has another CIE that is involved in it, but, because of his interest in it and Cathy’s explanations of it, he is then able to branch out even further. Ralph: My kids haven’t shown any interest in it. Charity: They are not a part of this. Your son will not join for quite a long time. That is the reason that each of the new individuals who are here now at this point that are involved where they are now have been brought to this point. They have been tutored, they have been guided, they have been prodded, they have been pushed, they have been maneuvered, to bring them where they are now. Ralph: OK, of those we have here, in this town, we also have Chuck who is on the fringe; he somehow will be involved, I take it, so he won’t have to worry about dying quickly of his heart disease. I would like to reassure him of that when I write or talk to him. We also have Skip, whom you mentioned is still peripheral. Charity: He will find something that will happen that will make him realize that there is something more. Not only that, but you also have Heidy’s girlfriends. Ralph: I just talked to them briefly. Charity: She has been talking to them. You have Debbie and Augie. Ralph: We haven’t gotten very far with them. Charity: But you have them with Cathy talking to them. You have other avenues with other humans. Woosie is one. Ralph: Now his family isn’t likely to be linked with this family, being in Asia. Charity: No. But you have to remember we have no boundaries. Ralph: I understand that but you do specialize in North America. Charity: That is correct. Ralph: I'm just wondering if he is linked somewhere with the relatives in Asia? Charity: He is linked with the CIE that are involved into that and we with them. He is part of the overseas operation. Ralph: The Asiatic Theater. Charity: But he is part of it also. You have the humans who are in Sweden who are most interested in this avenue, and you have the one human in England. Ralph: The Nigerian-born doctor? Charity: Yes. Ralph: Ike. Charity: You have those humans there. You have the situations in place. Ralph: OK. What about the family in Northern California in St. Helena? She mentioned that they are tied in more than I had expected. Charity: Sarah is very much tied in. Sarah has her own CIE, but we have basically replaced hers. Ralph: Like with me? Charity: Yes. Her avenue right now is that she needs to cease and desist in matters of past recalling. Ralph: I didn’t know what she is doing. Charity: This is not necessary. She needs to move on. She has been stuck in this process that is giving her no knowledge and no learning. But we have given to her her husband and her child. They are part of yours. Ralph: Both of them? Charity: Yes. Ralph: I thought they were nice folks when I met them. I didn’t have much of a chance to talk to them, but they seemed like quite nice folks. Now he is a nurse at the hospital? Charity: Yes. Ralph: There is still quite a distance to be able to be able to deal with them. Are they going to move? Charity: Of course. Ralph: San Luis Obispo is going to be a very busy town. Charity: Yes. Now to explain how it happened, if that is the next word, it started when you were able to contact Becky’s charge again. That reopened up the door.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Evil

During one of my discussions with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual mentor, we discussed what she thought of the concept of evil. This happened during a series of discussions we had in 1995. Charity: It is all the grand design from The Creator which is what we must emphasize to the humans that no human is born defective. There is no avenue of the term or the word “evil” as that does not exist in our language at all. Because there is no evil in our realm. Ralph: When I listened to a rabbi, he made it very clear that all humans are going to be evil if they don't follow the rules of God. The first order was to learn all the rules of God. The second order was to follow all the rules of God. Now, that sounds sort of logical. There are all these rules we must follow and, if we don't follow them, we'll get whipped. Charity: The rules of The Creator are very simple. By following them and listening to your Essence, you are following and listening to The Creator. Ralph: We have the Free Will to ignore those instructions and advisories. Charity: Correct Ralph: In Becky's case, for example, she has chosen not to ignore them. She follows your instructions; she may argue with you about them before she follows them, she has committed herself to being an obedient servant, Charity: That term is very demeaning Ralph: She goes along with the plan. She's not an obstreperous, refusing person. Charity: Right Ralph: But she has the capacity to, if she wanted to. The thing that would be most equivalent to evil behavior is a rebellious Essence who is not going along with what is expected of him or her. Charity: Right, it's called a Turned Essence. Ralph: So, we do have a category for those who don't go along with the program. Charity: Yes, but it is not called the term evil. Ralph: We have many, many choices of how we may accomplish any task you have laid out for us. Our Life Plan is not rigid. Charity: No Ralph: It is not that we must go to a certain place and live in a certain building, or attend a certain church. So you have much more broader expectations. The Jews cannot drink out of certain dishes, and that is very strict. They can't use the pot for cooking that they are using for something else. Charity: No. Ralph: You don't care what kind of pot we use as long as we eat healthy food. Charity: We don't care what kind of religion humans care to worship, just as long as it does not indoctrinate or change the role of the human at that time. We choose for them not to be a follower and follow blindly. Ralph: Instead of listening to their own Essence, listening to the turned Essence of a cult leader. Charity: Most correct. Ralph: Falsehoods are one thing, and still and all what we start out with is the question – this is much more complicated, it seems, why I need to understand – you said there is no word for evil in your language. That presents a major problem in our society. Because these are things defined as evil, bad, criminal, immoral. Those are the basic words that they use to define an act of prostitution, or theft, or murder. It is our moral code translated into our legal code. There are lots of actions that other countries don't consider in those categories, so there is a cultural choice in each country. Then there is always the problem of when is that behavior acceptable and excused, under what conditions. There's always an exception. Killing somebody is only murder under certain conditions. It can be manslaughter; it can be justifiable homicide; it can be self defense. This is where we need discussion on these matters. Charity: There is no justified representation for any kind of destruction of another Essence. Ralph: Well, here we have plenty of people who feel justified in executing a convicted killer. Charity: There is no justification for the destruction of any Essence. Ralph: I hear you but I'm just saying -- Charity: Would you like us to repeat that? Ralph: I'm not debating what you said. I'm just pointing out the major difference in what is considered to be moral, right for the populous of our country at this moment. I don't disagree with you. I agree with you and have for a long time, for other reasons. But I am saying I am in the minority. I definitely am in the minority. You probably have got 70-80% of the people in favor of the death penalty, and Marie has been one of them, from her comments. Charity: Yes. Ralph: So you have that personal knowledge of how this comes about, and she is an average person. In that regard, she is quite typical of Americans. That is something that we need to understand -- why there is a difference, because you have the Ten Commandments which said, "God said thou shalt not kill." Charity: The Creator did not make up the Ten Commandments. The Creator has no feelings. Therefore how can The Creator hate? He cannot pass judgment, The Creator just loves, pure and simple. Ralph: There is a psychiatrist named W. Scott Peck, who has written a number of books on religious aspects of psychiatry. He made lot of speeches, and, in the last book, he was into Buddhism, and now he has come back and is defining himself as a Christian. Charity: OK Ralph: This was his own statement. One thing I didn’t care much for in the first book I read of his was that he recommended psychiatry take on the job of treating all evil people. Charity: There is no term for evil. Ralph: In his book there was. This was all about the guys in prison who had raped and murdered and such. They violated all of our rules in society. Basically they are whom we would call sociopaths or Turned Essences, which is your term. Charity: Of course. Ralph: I said I didn’t like that idea that psychiatrists should be given the job of treating them and expected to cure people who are perpetually into misconduct. Charity: Right. Ralph: Because we psychiatrists always get the leftovers from the rest of medicine. Once we learn how to treat them, somebody else takes over and gets credit for the treatment. Charity: Of course. Ralph: But we invented it. We are tying to keep the manic depressives and get the credit for it. Charity: Of course. Ralph: But he wanted us to take on all the evil people. And he identifies himself as a Christian, and the way we have been talking, that would seem to be a backward step. Believing in Christ therefore puts him in some kind of a special category. Which is what his point of view was. Early Christians went to their deaths with the lions because they sacrificed themselves like Christ did and that made them somehow super-special. Charity: Correct. That’s not in tune with our teachings. Ralph: They had the idea of the Weather CIE as the Spirits of Nature back in the earlier days, the whole pagan religion was that, which was called the Devil’s work by Christians. Therefore they could kill them. Charity: There is no Devil. Ralph: But I'm just saying that’s what they called them, and therefore they were ready to kill them. Charity: First of all The Creator did not think that is a necessary part of it. Ralph: I'm just saying that we had pre-Christians in Europe and England, you had a number of religions which believed in the Spirits of Nature, which is the CIE. Charity: Which is correct. Ralph: And they were participating in rituals for centuries before the Christians came into England Charity: And did that away. Ralph: As soon as they arrived, they labeled them bad, evil people who had to be eliminated. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Now I get a little fearful of that being repeated. Charity: On what avenue? Ralph: Because we are bad, evil people to challenge this view which has been present now for 2,000 years. Charity: You have your choice. Ralph: I'm not arguing with you, I'm just saying that you have to realize that these people have not disappeared from the face of the earth. Charity: We are most happy but not around any religion.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Jesus Christ's Crucifixion

One of the conversations I had with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual teacher in 1995 was about who was really responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. I had just read a book by a biblical scholar about the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. These books, which had been declared heresies because they differed from the four Gospels, Matthew Mark, Luke, and John, showed different stories of what might have actually happened during and after Jesus' life in Israel. Ralph: These books were going to be burned and destroyed, but the librarians decided to bury them in the desert instead. Thank you, folks. And they finally dug them up 1500 years later. All part of the plan, of course. Now, we came to this question the other time about what did happen at the time of the crucifixion. First off, there is in here an excellent discussion of the way the Gospels write about the reasons for the crucifixion, who was responsible for it, being he was executed by the Roman governor, along with other criminals that had been sentenced by the Roman governor, and yet it was the Jewish leaders, Sanhedrin, etc. that were accusing him of all these terrible things. Charity: Misdeeds, yes Ralph: Right, and they allegedly pressured the governor to execute him and the governor, according to the Bible, said, "No, he hasn't done anything wrong," and they list Pontius Pilate, the one who said that. He was really a nasty guy in history, who executed anybody he cared to. He was not a patsy. Charity: No Ralph: So they give a false picture of the Roman governor of that day, who was really a very cruel person, and he wouldn't have cared what they accused him of -- he would go ahead and execute him. Charity: How do I explain this? Ralph: So the writers here were trying to blame the orthodox Jews. Charity: Correct Ralph: And not blame the Romans, who were really in charge of executions. Charity: Correct Ralph: The only time the Jewish leaders could punish anybody was if they violated some religious law. Charity: Correct, and they take it up with the Roman government to make sure that the execution was carried out. And they can say, therefore, that the Romans are the ones that executed them; they did not. Ralph: Well, in this case, there is that appearance in the Bible to blame it all on the Jews. And therefore they have gotten blamed for killing Jesus, and that's been a major problem for the Jews. Because then the Christians can say, "Well, you killed our leader, and we can hate you thereafter." Charity: Therefore it fosters a beginning of an ethnic hatred. Ralph: Antisemitism, par excellence Charity: And so once it has done that, it is beginning to be sanctioned to all corners of your globe. Ralph: That's not a very healthy thing. Charity: Therefore the Deception has started; as we told you, it was the Great Deception. Ralph: OK, the other reason that the Romans would have wanted to execute him was that they were putting down everybody who was challenging their rule. Charity: Of course. Ralph: And he was just one more out of hundreds, another young rebel Charity: He was one who was creating havoc, that's correct. And they did not want him to be proclaimed as King of anything. And what they were proclaiming him as was King. Therefore they were usurping the authority of the Emperor at that time by making part of the Great Teacher a King onto their own right, when he was not. Ralph: Well, did the Sanhedrin and Pharisees, who were the leading organizations of the Jewish church group, did they want to get him killed for some other reason? Charity: The crescendo happened with them bringing to the ruling government at that time that this human being was a detriment to them as leaders to make sure that the humans obeyed the laws of the government. By doing that, the government said, "Yes, you are most correct. We were thinking about destroying this human being anyway."

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Coveting a Neighbor's Wife

In 1995, I had a conversation with Charity, a Professor CIE and my spiritual teacher, about some of the Ten Commandments. Below is a transcript of the conversation regarding her views of one of them, which is as follows: “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbors.” [Exodus 20:17] Charity: Now we have mentioned three of the Ten Commandments. What others? Ralph: “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.” Charity: Which means? Ralph: That you will not try to seduce the mate of your next door neighbor. Charity: One that's most accurate. Ralph: That came directly from God, which then is part of our code of conduct, marriage, and divorce. Charity: That is a code of conduct. First of all, The Creator has never been married. Ralph: As far as I know, yes. Charity: So why would the Creator state that aspect to the humans unless the humans did not want to do that in the first place. Therefore, The Creator, who has never been married, is not going to tell you humans what you can or cannot do. It is your Essence that is going to tell you, "No, you don't do that, because it goes against the mate the Guardian has found for you." Ralph: But there have been a number of situations that I have known where the first mates got together and socialized, or they were working together, and later on the pairs switched. The husband of one went with the wife of the other and vice versa. And they did beautifully in their resultant homes. They were even better off mated to the other partner than they were to the first partner. Charity: But they divorced Ralph: But they divorced their first partner and married their best friend's wife. Charity: OK, so it was designed. Ralph: And that is a violation of that rule. Charity: How is that a violation? Ralph: They coveted their neighbor's wife. Charity: But they had divorced and the mate was offered unto them by the Guardian. How can it be a rule or a commandment from The Creator when The Creator has never been married? So how can The Creator construct a rule unto a human stating that you cannot do that? Ralph: Just pointing out one where we have major contradictions. Half the people get divorced in our country and mate somebody else, many times somebody they have met in that situation in the neighborhood. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Anyhow, I'm just – this is supposed to come straight from God; that's what it says there. Charity: Well, we are finished on this aspect. Ralph: This is what we have to deal with, you see. So if you write a law based upon that, who's going to argue with you? Charity: It is another law that a human should be true to a human, but basically did not want to say it was their law, it came from The Creator. We understand. Charity: All humans have their Essences. Your Essence can choose to negate a pregnancy, stop it from ever happening. We don't judge the human population. That is not our avenue. We try and make sure that the humans are listening to ourselves and doing what they need to do for spiritual advancement. If adultery is not going to help the human advance, then, of course, we would be concerned. Ralph: And the Essence would be warning them not to do it. Charity: Yes. Ralph: But you would consider there would be times and people where adultery would be spiritually improving. Charity: Correct Ralph: And in those conditions, you would not be warning them to stop? Charity: Correct Ralph: That then gets into the whole issue of rules that we mentioned before, versus a situational judgment of that person in that time and their place. And rules don't allow for that. Charity: You have to remember that each human population, each human in that population, is different, in their spiritual development. So what we say for yourself, for instance, is entirely different from what Becky's charge would be. Ralph: I understand that. Charity: And we cannot blanket a response on this avenue by quoting a general rule because there is no general rule. Ralph: I understand your general principle and I agree with you, but I'm trying to point out that it would seem to me an issue you would want to be propagating among human groups that they not go hopping in and out of other adult's beds and getting themselves shot by jealous husbands, as I have seen in the hospital, or breaking up marriages and things like that. It would seem to me you would have an interest in stopping those kinds of destructive activities. Charity: The Essences control their charges. Ralph: So you don't need any blanket condemnation like they have here, you wouldn't take that tack anyhow. And you pass the instructions down to the Essences on how to handle the individuals when they are tempted. Charity: Correct.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on our Need for Control

Below is a transcript of a conversation I had in 1995 with Charity, a Professor CIE, my spiritual instructor. We talked about the human need for control over everything. Sometimes she refers to her five Principles of Conduct for us humans, which she wishes we would follow. These were presented to me after we had discussed the Ten Commandments in the Bible, which she told me were Moses' necessary rules for the Israelites, but they were not written by The Creator for our use today. Since we humans seem to need a list of rules to follow, she offered these five Principles. #1. Acknowledge the existence of an Essence in each human. #2. Follow what your Essence says, negating Free Will (to mess up) #3. Grow spiritually, not religiouswise. #4. Impart your wisdom to others who have not grown as you have, spiritually. #5. Speak unto others as you would have each Essence speak unto you. Ralph: Just look at our society right now, the O.J. Simpson trial being a great example of society's mechanism for revenge gone wild, totally out of control, off in every direction that is irrelevant to the issue for which he was tried. You also have the “three strikes, you're out” law, which is bringing in such massive numbers of criminals to be incarcerated, they are overwhelming the courthouses and prisons. It's getting to the point of half the people being behind bars and the other half running the prisons. Charity: Correct. Ralph: You can't run a society that way. Charity: Correct. Ralph: That's the revenge mode being acted out. Charity: Correct. Ralph: And combined with super protection from all harm by the government. We must lock up every bad guy because he might, two years from now, do something wrong. Charity: Then if you continue to have them locked up and taken away from society, their Life Plans are not going to be acted out. Ralph: Not only that, we also have legal principles that they must have all the rights they would have had outside the prison. They don't have to pay a nickel for it, take any personal responsibility for gaining their medical care, their education, food, or anything. Charity: A case in point is your system being handled by or ruled by revenge. Once the revenge mode is taken away, there is no need for a justice system. Ralph: The only need for a detention system, the prison system, is to keep the people out of circulation that are going wild and hurting everybody. Charity: That is correct. Ralph: That is a small portion of them, but that is a necessary group to restrict their movement. Charity: That is a necessary responsibility of your culture. Ralph: If that is all we dealt with, I don't think we'd have an economic problem. Charity: No. Ralph: It's a small enough segment for a temporary span of time. Charity: That's correct. Ralph: But it goes on far beyond that. Charity: You have gone beyond the aspect of keeping and housing the dangerous individuals until they have succumbed or ceased. Ralph: Yes. They won't even let them out when dying – they have one at CMC [California Men's Colony State Prison] who is totally bedfast with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, which means his spinal cord is degenerated. He can't get out of bed. They won't let him go home and die in the midst of his family. He is sitting there in the prison hospital at CMC right now, and his family is begging for him to be released to their care. Charity: So what is the mode or the reason that your population, the prison -- what justification can they offer of not letting this human be able to be with their family? Ralph: The entire prison system has approved him going home, The judgment call is up to the judge at the committing court where he was sentenced, and that judge has refused. One man has said, “NO.” He sent him to prison, and he is going to stay in prison until the day he dies. That's it, there is no more explanation. Everybody who has evaluated the case in the prison system has said, “We don't need to spend all this money on his care here; we would rather have the family, who are willing and ready to, take care of him. Let him die in their bosoms” They are being very humane about it. The judge says, “No way. I've got control. He will stay right where he is.” I'm not talking logic, I'm talking power. Charity: That makes no logic at all on that aspect. Ralph: Except from the judge's point of view. We don't know why; the judge doesn't have to make any explanation. He just issues an order. In this case, he refuses to issue an order for release. I saw that myself, with this one multiple who was there, the same thing, with his sister willing to take him home to die of cancer. He died in the prison hospital. There were several I knew who died in the prison hospital. [Here we switch subjects, as I bring up the third of the Ten Commandments, in Exodus 20:4-6. “You shall not make yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.”] Ralph: Now we have the commandment that says God would punish them and their descendants. Charity: The Creator has no feelings. Therefore how can The Creator hate? He cannot pass judgment. The Creator just loves, pure and simple. Ralph: All I am saying is that you can understand this has been used for crowd control. Charity: What it sounds to ourselves is that the human wanted to make sure that if they did not follow the rules that he brought to the human race, that this is what's going to happen. And they used The Creator as saying, “I will do this and this.” Ralph: It's like the story of mothers at home telling little junior, “If you don't behave, Daddy will whip you when he gets home from work.” It's a powerful control mechanism. Alright, next it says, “You shall not take the name of he Lord your God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.” [Exodus 20:7] Don't use Him for swear words. Charity: We don't swear. Ralph: It's saying to the people that people should not use His name for swearing, and the common one in conflict with this is when somebody says, “God damn you.” That means, “I want God to condemn you to some horrible fate because you have made me unhappy.” That's what “Goddamn you” comes from. It's a violation of this commandment. Charity: First of all, The Creator does not, cannot, and will not punish any human being. He made human beings to be exactly what they are. And he gave the Essences unto them. Ralph: This is just using His name as an insult. Charity: The Lord seems to ourselves – we don't understand why they use the name “The Lord.” “The Lord” to ourselves does not mean anything. We don't even have a word that means anything close to that. Ralph: Lord is master of any group. Charity: Well, the Creator is not a master. Ralph: Good point. That is what this implies, the master over a group, like the lord over servants. Charity: Oh, no, the human beings are not servants. The human beings are still on this earth to live their lifetimes and to grow and to become Essences so they can take their places. Ralph: The meaning I get out of this is like in politics, where you have a governor over a state, you have a president over the United States, and he has armies and police he can call on. He enforces the laws, and, if he tells you you have broken the law, he can hire these people to put you in jail. Charity: Again, to ourselves, this is another rule that the humans have brought down and put down concerning if you use a swear word with The Creator's name in it, whatever The Creator's name might be. Ralph: Yahweh was the most common one then. Charity: Then, therefore, if you do that, it goes against what they want the humans to do, so therefore they put that rule in there. [Here we switch to discussing Charity's Principles, noted above.] Charity: We have “Follow what your Essence says, negating Free Will.” First of all, following No 1, which is “Acknowledge the existence of an Essence in each human,” makes following No. 2 more difficult. Ralph: Would you explain that? Charity: We would be happy to. First of all, the avenue of control that you humans need to have – by following No. 1, “Acknowledging,” you are stating that you know we are there. Ralph: What you do about its existence is another question. Charity: That's right. We are stating that No. 2, if you follow that part of you, it leads to us. The humans' problem is control; control means that you know all. There is northing else there. Correct? Ralph: That's control. Charity: Basically. Ralph: There was that one expert who determined that man is here to control nature. And that is what our scientists preach. That is what the newspaper headlines say. ”We must control this disease.” “We must control the elements.” Charity: That is correct; you humans have been indoctrinated with it. Ralph: That is goodness, to control nature. Charity: Just as the avenue, as the terms that you state, to control disease. Ralph: The war against these things. Charity: Whatever action, controlling the environment, controlling the weather, controlling death. Ralph: Oh, yes. Charity: That is the ultimate control that you human being wish to have. Correct? Ralph: Correct. Charity: You want to be – you as a human body do not want to cease to exist. Correct? Ralph: That is a universal desire. Charity: What is the term you humans have for it? Immortal? Ralph: Immortal, yes, we would like to be immortal. Charity: You are not going to be. Ralph: The problem is that it is not a practical action since this body wears out and can't be immortal. Charity: Correct. Ralph: So if we are talking about being immortal in this body, it gets frail, and diseased, and broken. Charity: Correct, but all humans are trying to find an avenue to keep the physical shell well and not, as you state, growing old. It is the same and so forth. Ralph: Like the man who came to Florida to find the Fountain of Eternal Youth. If you drink the water of Ponce de Leon, if you drink the water, you will stay young forever. Charity: Correct, but that does not happen. Ralph: They have tried to make it happen. Charity: Yes, to make humans younger again. Why do you humans have that vain aspect? It's always controlling the whole avenue. What you humans have right now is a controlling attitude. You are in charge of yourselves. Therefore you are to be in charge of all things around you. Correct? Ralph: One of my friends has a major problem with that. My wife came from a family with an alcoholic mother. He doesn't come from a family like that. There the adults don't have control of what goes on in the family They are out of control themselves. The child naturally wants control so chaos does not reign. If you are raised in that kind of home, where everyone is out of control, wanting control is understandable. But he did not have that. He had decent parents, as far as I know. So I don't know why the rest of us who don't have a bizarre home upbringing would want control. Charity: The normal human experience. Ralph: If you compare our child rearing practices with that which might have occurred in the American Indian tribes, if you were raised along with the medicine man who is teaching you about the CIE as he sees it, that's part of how you are raised, and you are in a relationship to them from the day you are born. You would have a very different attitude. You know you can't control them. Charity: Of course. Ralph: You wouldn't be wearing yourself out. Charity: But what is happening is that the humans who are now teaching the other humans – it is passing down further and further the control issue. When the humans ignore that avenue and the children ignore that avenue and their children do also, they realize there is something else. Ralph: OK. The other thing is that the CIE don't exist in their knowledge. They lose control and chaos reigns, and that leaves a mess. Charity: What we are saying is that you don't need to be concerned for yourself. You humans have chosen to have control in all matters, including our realm. And, by having control of our realm, you are therefore feigning chaos. Ralph: Feigning? Charity: In other words, coming close to chaos, skirting it, on the outskirts. You are taking over our responsibilities, our duties. Ralph: And your duties lead to quite different behaviors than what we are thinking is moral and good and proper and American. Charity: Right, correct. By following your Essence, you have already come to the first part of acknowledging something, but now you have to give up control. Ralph: Horrors. Charity: It is. As your friend knows, your friend was fighting. He was stating that he did not want that. He did not want to give up control. Ralph: And yet, at the same time, we have so many people who have experienced when they came to a point where they couldn't maintain control, the CIE have snuck in, but they wouldn't be allowed to tell anyone about it. Charity: Of course. Ralph: And they have their own stories where things opened up. Something just happened. A rescuer came by. Charity: Of course. Ralph: A landslide occurred, or a monsoon hit, or whatever. Charity: Correct. The CIE should not have to create avenues to show humans they are not in control. That's what listening and following what your Essence says. Ralph: Now, to control hasn't always been important to humans. It hasn't been an important issue all the time we have been on earth. Back in the old days, when they started, they knew they couldn't control the animals and trees. Charity: Of course, but when the Great Deception happened, that was when the avenue started. Ralph: How? What kind of experiences taught that? Charity: We don't understand. Ralph: I'm just trying to see what we have to reverse. What kind of experiences did these humans have that would lead them to think they have to have control, when they had been doing quite well without it? What are we having to reverse that is basic? What elements of the Great Deception were related to teaching them to have to control nature? Charity: First of all, the cities had to be build. So the first grand design is that they had control over the land. Ralph: One of my friends in anthropology wrote a book on this, saying that when the hunter-gatherer tribes moved around, they didn't have control over the land or the weather or the animals. They worked with them and survived just like the tribes of animals did. The shaman was their spiritual leader and guide who went into his trances and related them to the members of the tribe.. In this one paper I heard, every time a tribe decide to set up on a fixed piece of land, they would put stakes in the ground to mark their territory, where they had sheep and built a hut. Charity: They didn't need a shaman any more. Ralph: One of the buildings they built was a church. Not by the shaman, because he didn't need it. He lived in his little hut. But somebody decided they needed a place to worship God and have all the people come there so the bishop could tell them how to behave. Charity: That's correct. Ralph: I heard this anthropologist report that he found that in each one of a number of different ancient books, he could find some mythological leader who taught them how to farm and tend cattle in their fenced areas, and the name of this teacher was always some variety of Jesus. This is not just the name of the one in Nazareth that died on the cross. And they saw that one as a sort of God-Man that came from the gods to teach them how to farm appropriately. I will never forget how he went through a number of books to find that out, from many different countries. It is not an Israeli invention. Charity: Yes. Ralph: He explained that with farming you have to control a piece of land and the weather. Charity: You have to control land, forest, by building the houses. Ralph: You have to control the water so it doesn't wash your house down the river. Charity: Right. Ralph: You have to keep the fences up. Charity: You have to then start controlling nature and from there it builds. Ralph: You have to have a roof over your head to keep the rain out. Charity: You have to protect your property. Ralph: And keep away the robbers who want to steal your cows. Charity: Then start a massive stockpile of physical possessions and then start defending your physical possessions. And it therefore builds even further to the process that you then want to make it when children are going to be born, to make it when you are going to have a male species. Ralph: Oh, yes, you want to control the sexes. Charity: Right, then you change your physical appearance from a face of wisdom to a face of innocence, change the existence or to make your lives go longer, instead of passing away when you should. Ralph: One emotional reason for wanting control is fear. Charity: Correct. Ralph: How did the people before then avoid that fear? The people in the hunter-gatherer tribes, with the shaman? They were built the same way emotionally. They didn't fear what might happen if they didn't exert control. Charity: Because they knew what there was there for them. Ralph: They had the Nature Spirits to work with them. Charity: Correct. They were in a cooperative effort. What has happened now is that the humans are on a singular basis. They are out for themselves as humans. Not for someone else. You are not together, but on your own. Ralph: OK. There have been a number of studies among animals who operate in groups as to how they do in a test where they have choices. Do they look after themselves or do they look after somebody else who might then look after themselves? They have a number of these kinds of tests worked out to see about social behavior in animals. Most of the time, you find the animals are looking after the others as an instinct, that is built in. Because that is the way the group will survive. If you only look after yourself, everybody looks after themselves, and the group ceases to exist after a while. Charity: That is one avenue of reason that we are here, to train you, to turn things around. Ralph: What examples of that are you seeing? Charity: On the avenue of the humans taking upon themselves to destroy a single race or culture because they don't like it. Ralph: Ethnic cleansing they call it. Charity: Changing the way the weather is by destroying the trees. Ralph: They have done a lot of cutting down what they call the Rain Forests in Brazil and other areas which are massive interconnected systems. Charity: And then you have the businesses that are for profit only and by doing a job of whatever they are building just to amass great amounts of monetary gains. Ralph: You have a few building in Japan and Korea which fell down because the people cheated on the quality of the material, and these buildings couldn't stand up. They killed a lot of people. Charity: Correct. And then you have the avenues of what you would call cults that state that the government is wrong; therefore they will denounce the government and do what they need to do to destroy the government, to make themselves stronger. Those are in some areas. Ralph: We also have governments who are getting more and more control. Charity: Correct. Ralph: With more and more things that they don't trust us people down here to deal with. Charity: As with the Internet connections. Ralph: We must not have those dirty pictures there. Watch that language there. Charity: Correct. You also have the avenue of when they can tell you where you can live and where you cannot. Where you can do work and where you cannot. If you can leave or come back. Ralph: How many children you can have. Charity: Right. If you can live in whatever dwelling you can live in, that kind of avenue. You have many different kinds of controls that are building to a breaking point or strangulation. Ralph: We have that in regulations of small businesses in the US. This is where one person goes out to start a business, in an office. There are many regulations to follow. There is more work in following the regulations than on conducting the business. That is where most of the jobs exist, in small businesses. If you make it hard on them, they might as well stay at home. You lose the businesses. Charity:You also have the avenue of taking away our responsibility that has to do with the existence of the human physical self by extending their existence longer than what needs to be – to cure all diseases, to have basically what you humans are working towards, you would call a sterile environment. Ralph: Oh, yes, we can't have any bacteria or viruses or fungus. Charity: That will not happen, as you can tell. We are bringing about new strains of viruses and bacteria. Ralph: But most of them are not harmful to the human body in the first place. Charity: That is correct. Ralph: If you take antibiotics, you kill them. Then you get a fungus infection because you don't have the bacteria in there, and the fungus takes over, and you are worse off. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Now we are in a different era of jobs. The Industrial Era is being replace by the Information Era, with Bill Gates and the Internet being an example. They are not selling a “thing”. They are selling a capacity to interchange and share information. Which means you can live anywhere in the world nowadays. And now we are getting the governments interfering in that because they want to set limits. [Here Charity withdraws and Faith, a Spiritual Guardian CIE, takes over the body. One of Faith's duties of finding the jobs for the 150 humans she looks after.] Faith: They want to control. Ralph: Right, you can't have those dirty pictures. Faith: Correct. Then, as you see, you see how it is. Ralph: Let me ask this. I am being here the Devil's Advocate. One German prosecutor said he is going to take the CompuServe service into the German court if they don't stop sending those dirty messages over CompuServe wires. CompuServe wiped them all out. Now what he is claiming is that he is protecting those poor German children from reading those nasty dirty messages. A lot of people see nothing wrong with that. That is what the government is there for, to protect the children from harm. Faith: Why? You were stating about CompuServe and the German. Ralph: The one German prosecutor who is protecting the children. If you have a child and have a computer, you can enter there and pick out these discussion groups that are using dirty sexy words. So therefore the government feels a responsibility to protect the children from harm. Also they might have people lurking on those bulletin boards who want to have messages sent to these children to meet them somewhere where they can sexually abuse them. Faith: All right. Ralph: These are bad people. So they are in the business of protecting innocent children. To do that they want to wipe out all communications of sexy things that go to children. Faith: No. Ralph: This is where we are faced this week. Faith: No. The avenue is no. Ralph: How is CompuServe to deal with such people? We have it in the paper here. Faith: You do not need to protect. The children are going to the part of them to see it. Ralph: How could you let that happen? How could you have these innocent little children see something that is sexy, that is so vulgar? I understand they don't see it as vulgar. The adults see it as vulgar. Faith: Correct. This is the stereotype they make to the child. And the child therefore has become ingrained that it is wrong, so they are going to seek it out. Therefore it is a control issue, a bureaucrat telling people what they can or cannot do. Correct? Ralph: So passing laws against exploiting children does not improve the quality of their future lives. Faith: Correct. Ralph: So of all the regulations, you would not be happy with many of them? Faith: Yes, you could definitely say that. Ralph: We thought we were protecting their health and safety. That sounds so nice. When they were closing down the government, I heard the Secretary of Labor on TV say, “We have to have our people out there to protect these people in the workplace.” Because otherwise, the employers would give them nasty chemicals to breathe, or they would have other major problems. Faith: Unless it is part of their Live Plans Ralph: But they have the right to a harmless work environment. You have probably heard that phrase. Faith: Many times, yes. Ralph: And you say they don't have the right to a harmless work environment? Faith: Not if it is not part of their Life Plan, no. On this avenue, we think we answered your questions. Ralph: I know, you would just like to put bureaucrats out of work. Then where will those people go to work? Maybe their Life Plans require that they have these jobs as bureaucrats. Faith: No. Ralph: You believe there is no room for bureaucrats under those conditions? Faith: Correct. There are other positions they could have. Ralph: Then you are going to have a lot of employment opportunities available Faith: There is. Ralph: What can an unemployed bureaucrat do? They are used to passing rules for other people's safety. Faith: As you would state, there are the jobs of the people from the other workers. Ralph: Oh, the field workers, stoop labor? Faith: That's what you call it? Ralph: They could do those jobs? Faith: There are many jobs. Ralph: An interesting shift would have to come about. Faith: You could go out and do that, also. Ralph: I did that as a kid. Faith: You could also go out there and do that. Ralph: I'm not sure my back would hold up. Faith: We would have you reach up on the tree and pull down the fruit. Ralph: That would be an interesting shift in the job roles. Faith: Of course. Ralph: Having the bureaucrats who are controlling the work environment working in the fields. Faith: Of course. Ralph: I don't think we will see it in my lifetime. OK, so the basic thing is that the jobs up here are not within this territory that we live in by our laws. Faith: Yes. Again do not make laws and regulations. You have too many of them. Ralph: We started out with the Ten Commandments as the first list of laws and regulations. Faith: Of course. Ralph: It was fine with that group. Faith: With that group, correct. Ralph: I don't think we had to get it more complicated. Faith: If you remember, we have broken down the Ten Commandments into Five Principles. Correct? What is simpler than that? Ralph: You are right. OK, Bye, bye. [Faith then withdraws from the body and is replaced by Charity.] Charity: Did she answer your questions? Ralph: The major thing is to put no geographical limits on where the jobs are. They put all these regulations out to limit what you can do. Charity: By following, as you can tell, your human existence comes in the way of controls. Ralph: I don't know why I am peculiar, but I do know that, in my lifetime, I have always had the belief that Faith explained. It has just been innate. If you will just leave people alone to design their own job training programs and job creation programs, there is a job for everyone somewhere. Charity: Correct. Ralph: And I have said that to myself, many many times. Charity: We know. But you can also see there is the control aspect of human nature. Correct? Ralph: I say this is because of the fear that something horrible will happen if they are not in charge. Charity: Correct. Ralph: They don't have the faith that the people will do well by themselves. Charity: This avenue of them taking control because of the fear that something won't come out correctly, what about the weather? There are still humans who are trying to control that avenue. But the earthquakes still come, the tornadoes still come, the floods still come, and what happens when those disasters happen, what happens to the humans' existence? Does it not change, become friends with each other? Ralph: They rescue each other. Charity: Correct, therefore the closer they are together. Ralph: You are having to operate on the scene as it needs to be done, not by some rules set out. We are certainly getting a lot of that over in the Boston area. Charity: Do you not enjoy snow? Ralph: No, I don't. I've had my fill. Charity: As you can see what happens with the human. To give the humans something that ties them together, and they feel important. Ralph: In the paper this morning, there was one of those “good things that have happened because of the snow”. No murders for 70 hours or so; the criminals couldn't leave home and kill anybody. And the police went to work and had nothing to do. They got all their paperwork caught up on. Nobody was out there shooting. The minute the snow stopped, the shooting started again. Charity: But did you notice how quiet it was? Ralph: Oh, yes. Charity:Did it not bring to mind what could be? Ralph; Well, on a long term basis, what would happen? Actually , it is so much like when you are working in a prison on a weekend and nobody is around telling you what to do. Everybody is efficient, oriented towards getting a job done. So pleasant. Charity: We don't want to give you too much. Ralph: One of the major rules that messes it up is what I call the Fairness Doctrine. That means that everyone must be dealt with fairly, meaning equally to all people That is not part of your code. Charity: No. Each human has to experience their Life Plan that they are set upon this time to experience. You humans want to change that. Ralph: That is where our lawyer friends have been propounding that very vigorously, and they are getting control of the rules and regulations for all these things. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Now maybe you can do something about the types of lawyers we get. Can you improve their spirituality? Charity: No. Ralph: Now come on, that would seem to be the most effective way to improve the system. Charity: No, they don't have enough time and experiences to be able to improve them. Ralph: They are not terribly advanced. Charity: No. Ralph: So they are in need of a lot of control. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Now I have to deal with them at work. Charity: Correct. Ralph: It's a challenge. Charity: But you find it most satisfying and gratifying, now that we have been teaching yourself? Ralph: I can get into the vision of what if so and so had this experience. People in positions of power and control. Their whole life has been devoted to more and more control. Charity: The experience of ourselves telling the human beings that the control issue, once they have dropped that, that the humans would feel most uncomfortable. But they have also had the same kind of experience. Ralph: Now, just looking at what would happen if one of those people in that position of power were to have this experience and become willing to change -- the problem I see right off the bat then is that the other people he's been controlling are not going to be changed, and he might fear he is going to be overwhelmed and controlled by them.. Charity: That is a human reaction. But you have to remember if they have listened to their Essences and have changed as you would state, then therefore that fear will not be there as they are practicing the Principles. Ralph: It is just like when two sides have been at war and eventually one side decides we have to stop having a war, but they are evenly matched and either one can destroy the other one if somebody loses control. They have to be very careful, like in a chess game, who gives up first. Somebody has to move first, or they have to move at the same time. Charity: You have to remember, as you state regarding two countries, you also have the two human beings who are in charge of those countries. If the one human being sees the other human being trusting and following and living by the Principles, then they will want to follow and live by the Principles. If they have the avenue of someone who is better than ourselves, then they will want to balance the matter of forces, so if you have one that is practicing, the other one is going to practice, since they don't want this human to be better than they are. By that avenue, of even coming that close, and going that way of starting the Principles, they are becoming indoctrinated. It is now a matter of habit. Ralph: When you have leaders of countries with much at stake, and they are critical movers of what happens, people could die in large numbers if they make a mistake. Charity: Correct. Ralph: And for them to be able to trust that other person as an equal to go along with this plan is the big issue. The ones we have had so far have had a mediator who goes back and forth between them – they won't even meet in the same room. Charity: That is because the mediator is using the communication of the Essence. And once the plan has been worked out, the mediator disappears, and the Essences start talking, Ralph: The one in Bosnia then retired and went off to his old job. He got the Bosnian leaders to work together, and so far they are still behaving themselves. Charity: Correct. What is most important in No. 2 is to realize that there is something there. It has credentials, it has a duty statement, it has existed before, it has had many lives before, it brings its experiences besides our teaching to the physical self. Ralph: I know that now, but you kept that hidden from me. Charity: Of course. Ralph: Now, if you kept that hidden from me, should we keep that hidden from people we introduce it to now? Charity: No. Ralph: But why keep it hidden from me while you want to tell them all these things? Charity: Your teaching was a growing aspect for yourself. You are what is known as the professor. Ralph: You are the professor. Charity: We know what ourselves is. But yourself is the professor. You need all knowledge. The only way that you are getting the knowledge is for ourselves to give you the piece of information that you need. And, as you state, the “ah ha” experience. Ralph: It does seem peculiar that people seem eager to follow their Free Will. Charity: Of course, it is a control mechanism. Ralph: The trouble is when they do follow their Free Will, they make their lives harder for themselves, which isn't logical. Charity: Correct, but time and time again, they have constantly done it that way. And our question or our response to it is “stop reacting.” Ralph: This sort of shows a failure in the learning process. Charity: As you would say, short circuited the response. Ralph: I am saying that in conditioning a person, you have a stimulus and a response. Now, the first time you use the stimulus, the response leads them into a bad, bad painful situation. You would think logically that they wouldn't keep responding that way and getting that reaction. But humans seem to keep doing that. Charity: Of course. Ralph: Freud called it repetition compulsion. In spite of the bad result, you keep doing it. You see the prisoners doing it all the time. Charity: They feel comfortable as they know what the reaction is going to be. Ralph: That's true. They know what to expect, even if it's miserable. They are happier knowing what they are going to get, rather then taking a chance on an unknown. Charity: Correct. We were on item No. 2. Ralph: Yes, well, what more could we say about that? Charity: We are not finished with it. Ralph: When you read it, it sounds very straightforward. “Follow what your Essence says, negating Free Will.” Now what could be simpler than that? I know the world hasn't done it. Charity: As we said, Free Will is taking over what your Essence tells yourself. Ralph: Now, as I understand it, as human moved into villages and farmed land, that's when control became an important issue. Charity: Important. Ralph: Because they had to control access to their land and had to control water to their crops and all of this was part of living. Charity: Yes. There have been cultures who have changed that avenue, and they are not into control avenues. They are following what the CIE are saying and what their Essences say. Ralph: But they are very small groups compared to the rest of the world. Charity: That is correct. Ralph: And you are expecting this to be the way the entire world runs? It seem to me it would be an extremely long range proposition. Charity: Why? As we stated on the avenue of the Principles, you can see how the building blocks are associated. And the control issue is very important to overcome and to live your existence with No. 2. Ralph: The whole thing is coming back around that we need to control, we have to control, we have got to control, it is essential we control. Charity: Which avenue is true for your culture at this time. As that is what your generation has been primed for. But what has happened is that with the control issue, you need to control everything. The humans are seeing that they cannot do that. It does not work, it is futile. Ralph: It would seem rather obvious with the discoveries of astronomy, what have you, with the new worlds being seen by the Hubble telescope and sending these little satellites out there. They are not controlling anything. They can't control. The spaceships can't control. Charity: All avenues of this planet, even with your weathermen and when they track storms, they see that there is an intelligence that runs it. As when they are not interfered with, they can see that it has a deliberate course. And that it comes out of nowhere, goes somewhere, and they all can see the aftermath of what happened. The control issue needs to be destroyed. Those humans won't be able to control the Weather CIE. But it is still happening. Ralph: There is no tool they have. Charity: The earthquakes still happen. Ralph: The only tool they have that would have enough power to force them into anything would be an atomic or hydrogen bomb. Charity: Therefore it is destruction. Ralph: True, but I'm saying that those are the only forces we have that have anything that comes anywhere near affecting those kinds of nature forces. Charity: Those nature forces the humans can see, for example, the controls are not working. You also have the control on viruses and bacteria. Ralph: We have many people working on that. Charity: Most humans have known that they would be able to defeat many of the viruses and bacteria quite a long time ago, but they never did. The CIE bring about more and different strains. And the control regarding the viruses is in what you call Africa. Ralph: Ebola. Charity: That was there. It destroyed the humans that needed to, but all control did not work. It was there, and then it ceased. Ralph: True. Charity: The humans did nothing. There was no treatment, therefore there was no control. Ralph: Now we have people who have had the HIV virus and little babies are born with it from their mother's blood stream, and suddenly it is disappearing after about two months of age. And the doctors want to find out what their biology is so they can give it to the patients and control it. Charity: They won't. Ralph: I don't think they will find much. Think of all the efforts they are going to put out and all the money they are going to spend trying. Charity: We know. Ralph: And we have all these other people who are living ten years with HIV and no physical illness. Charity: And then there are those who have the virus but do not have the disease. Ralph: Right, that's what I'm saying. Charity: When they are ready, they no longer exist. Ralph: No longer what? Charity: They cease to exist. When they should not have ceased, per the doctors. Ralph: I say, when it first came out, they said anyone who gets it can live maybe five years, then they are going to die from the illness. Now we have people like Magic Johnson out playing basketball and he has now had it for something like 10 years. He is a professional basketball player. Charity: We also have humans that have the virus but do not have the disease, which they should be having. Ralph: Right, and nobody can explain why those people are physically doing so well. Charity: You have those avenues. Ralph: That's true, you can't argue with the facts. Charity: The whole avenue for humans to be able to practice and to live and exist with Principle No. 2, is to stay out of control. Do not practice Free Will. Ralph: How about this latest bill that was signed into law today regarding the whole communications industry? It included the control of content which might upset little children because it is dirty. Of course they are not aware that the Essence can make them deaf, dumb and blind if it wants to. You do have that going on, don't you? To keep the little infants from that they can't handle. The Essence is there to monitor everything that comes into their view. Charity: Of course. Ralph: And they can see a blur if it is something that isn't of interest to them. Charity: Maybe they will not see it. Maybe they will see another thing. Ralph: We were taught about that in Sex Education, when we were trying to teach that in school, and a doctor gave a talk, saying, “It is the adults; the kids can' t comprehend what it is all about.” Charity: That's correct. Ralph: No one is paying attention to them, of course. The adults are upset, and they think they can't let the kids get upset. We must protect them, control their environment. When you talk like that about these issues, then we are accused of going backwards into ancient history when we weren't doing these wonderful things for these children, and that's bad, to regress back to those days of dirt and guilt and sin. They were awful, because we are now much better. That is the kind of thinking. To propound something like this, that was only good when they lived in caves. As if anyone before twenty years ago was totally stupid, ignorant and evil. That is the current attitude these days. [Here we switch subjects to who made up the Ten Commandments.] Ralph: And you are telling me that Moses made those up by himself? Charity: Of course. Ralph: Well, I would say the CIE at that time needed them made up. Charity: Of course. Ralph: So they made it appear as if this miracle occurred, and God must be behind it? Charity: We have an avenue in favor of that. If The Book is correct, which it is not, when your human called Moses came down from the mountain with the tablets, then he broke them, correct? And therefore he had to make new ones. Did he make them? Or did he state that The Creator did? Ralph: The Creator gave him the first ones. Charity: But then he broke those. Ralph: I presume he had to carve out new ones that he would believe are identical to the first ones. Charity: How would Moses have remembered what the first ones were? Ralph: His Essence memory was very good. That gave him a perfect chance to write in anything he wanted. And he had a responsibility to run the group of ragtag people who didn't know how to get along with each other. Charity: Correct. Ralph: He had a strong need to set up some procedural rules. Charity: Correct. Ralph: He didn't have a parliament, he didn't have a police force, he didn't have any rules that they had agreed upon. Nobody elected him leader and gave him authority over them. Charity: Yes. Ralph: And the only authority they recognized was their God. Charity: Right. Ralph: So you will have to admit he was pretty smart. Charity: And by using that power, he was able to develop the social controls that are in process now. Ralph: Let me ask you, in the Internet, are you going to let them pass the censorship proposal or are we going to have the ACLU win their battle? We have all this need to protect the children. Charity: And control. Ralph: You have to exert control if you are going to protect the children. That's a good reason for control. Charity: No, it isn't. Ralph: That's what they have done. They have spent a lot of effort at it. Charity: Of course. Ralph: You wouldn't want these sexy comments coming on your computer that your four-year-old might read sometime. You understand that they are much more concerned about sexy things than about violent things. Which is a paradox. Charity: Why is that? Ralph: Why is that? You have got to wipe out sex and violence. Why is sex such a horrible thing? Violence I can see. Sex is creative, violence is destructive. Charity: That's where you humans have contradiction of what you state. Ralph: That doesn't make any sense. Charity: No. Ralph: Well, I'm just looking for the future, you know. We are at No. 4. Charity: “Impart your wisdom to others who have not grown as you have, spiritually.” Ralph: Now there is something I keep forgetting. Some of this wisdom has to be one-on-one, and some of the wisdom can be general to groups. Charity: Yes. Ralph: I keep forgetting with us talking about all of it with each other here, you know. I keep forgetting which is which, what subjects can be given in seminars where you don't know the individual level of the people and which has to be restricted to those you know can handle it. Charity: Basically, that there is an Essence here and different avenues of contacting what's there. The basic structure and outline. Then when it comes to doing it and contacting it and knowing when you have it, that is a one-to-one situation. Ralph: What about the identity of what it is? Charity: What do you mean? Ralph: Well, reincarnation. Charity: That is all the avenue of general knowledge for all. Ralph: That is when people started walking out of the meeting in Orlando. I just mentioned the word and off they went. I didn't mean to insult anybody. We can't just go around cubby-holing it, but that's still a loaded word in this society. You are a kook if you believe in that. Charity: Once it has been explained, that it has run everything, there will be no fear. It is very important that humans don't want to be controlled, and that is what they would see their Essence as, as a controlling avenue. A controlling entity. Humans don't want to give up control. Humans want control. Ralph: That is certainly true. But we have never had much concept that there is a control by a non-human source. The control we want to avoid is by other people who are in a power position over us – governors, military people, people like that. That's an understandable fear, to have people controlling us. We don't have any concept that I can think of of a non-human controlling us, and I think of you doing your little trips on me, even that is certainly controlling me, like when I control my car when I drive it. I know which buttons to push to get it to go where and do what. Charity: We know which buttons to push in you humans. Ralph: I understand. Charity: But you also have the Free Will to not listen to your buttons being pushed. Until you have had too much. Ralph: Well, the thing is the purpose of pushing the buttons is to get me where I'll do better. It is not a punitive thing; it is not anything that causes me any problem. Charity: It does not cause you harm. Ralph: Because then we are getting into the control issue. Charity: Humans have a very interesting avenue regarding control. We control all that you humans do. But you humans choose somehow, with your own emotional part of yourself, your own Free Will, you try to ignore what we are doing. We still have our ways. We still get our ways. Ralph: I know that. I've seen enough evidence of it. Charity: But the process is for you humans to continue to fight. Continue to use Free Will because that is what makes yourself happy. Continue to do it. We will continue to have our way. So why fight? Ralph: You told me one time that all the Weather CIE are in charge of the weather. We have the environmentalist people who are all worried about the damage people are doing to the physical environment around the world, like the ozone layer we have to protect us from noxious radiations. Charity: But the humans think that. Ralph: That's what they are saying. They take their measurements and think there is a hole up there, and it is getting bigger, and they are blaming certain chemicals we make for doing that. I take it you weren't terribly concerned about that. Why not? Charity: Why? Ralph: We were very concerned and wiped out all those chemicals that were used in refrigerators, as they were making a hole in the ozone layer. Charity: Because the humans assume certain avenues are inappropriate. They are human concerns in avenues in our realm. Ralph: I'm just pointing out that these are people who are very concerned that you keep control of your realm, but they don't want the humans to ruin it. Charity: What do you mean? Ralph: They are saying that humans, by their scientific engineering, are making the machinery you use faulty. Should we or should we not make those fluorocarbons, as they call them, that are allegedly making this big hole and destroying the ozone? That is a very important question. Charity: Again the scientific measurement that you humans have is a scientific measurement, but it does not equate in our realm. You humans think that you have to control the whole aspect. You don't need to. We are here. Ralph: Well, I'm not asking, this is one thing the environmentalists are very busy trying to help the Weather CIE, if they knew the Weather CIE existed. So we don't poison the atmosphere by putting all kinds of bad chemicals into the air that make it difficult for rain to be as nourishing as it is. It sounds good. Charity: Has it every stopped? Ralph: Acid rain is the kind of thing they worry about. It comes down and poisons the ground.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Churches & Religions

Here I transcribe another portion of a conversation I had with Charity, a Spiritual Professor CIE, in 1995. Remember, I was the eldest son of a small town Presbyterian preacher and his wife, who were devoted to the national church. My father moved from church to church during my childhood because he could not get along with the elders of each church. He was, however, an intellectual preacher, not a fundamentalist one. Ralph: It seems that those religious people who use the phrases “believe in” and “born again” all seem to know what they mean, but, to my mind, they have never had any inherent meaning. But the religious people seem to know what they mean and, if they are that way, then they are better people. But they don't seem to act any differently. They don't go out and change the world in any way. In fact, some are more bigoted, narrow minded, and intolerant than they were before. Marie, whose body you borrow, told me she chose a fundamentalist church because she felt a need, which obviously a lot of people do. What is that need they have that the churches capitalize on? What can be done about it in a better way? Charity: The humans feel the loss of ourselves. That is what the humans feel. They feel the loss of ourselves and the loss of their own contact with their own Essences. That is what is missing. Ralph: Then what are the tools that you have to meet that situation better? Charity: We are looking at them right now. Ralph: Not many people are going to talk to you through another body. Charity: We are looking at them right now. Ralph: ME? My son told me that I can't set up a new church; I can't do that. I agreed with him that I would not. Charity: We don't want a church. Ralph: I know, I'm just saying that's what it appears to him. Charity: It's not. Ralph: Then it doesn't matter how much you say about religions? Charity: We already talked about the religious aspect, on religions, and yourselves have to have a leader to be able to bring about their own beliefs unto the masses. Correct? Ralph: That's what happens. Now, I'm just asking this as an academic question. It seems every culture has a religion. Charity: Yes. Ralph: Not everybody in that culture operates within that religion. But certainly every area of the world has had their religion that has tried to bring everybody they could to join that religion. Charity: Which again is a religion. Ralph: Right. I have to therefore assume that there is some benefit to all those people to have that religion, which is different from being spiritual. I understand that. But they do do that, and some people feel so much better by doing that. And they keep doing it over the centuries. Charity: If you would look at it in the way that we see it, the reason why the humans go to religions, as we have stated, is that they feel they are missing something. Of course they re missing something; they are missing their contacting and their direct communication with their Essences. That's why the humans were going to the religions. But there is a tide, a cultural shift, a cultural change that is happening now, that a lot of humans are coming away from that and asking questions, going to buildings that do not have a religion, a set of beliefs, where you can believe, question anything that you choose to. By the questions that are happening and the sightings of miracles, the angel theology that is happening, there is a more of a cultural shift into the aspect that there is something else that the religions cannot offer. Ralph: Considering that many people feel religion does answer whatever they are looking for, why are they looking and going in such numbers? What is it that religion is doing for them? Charity: A lot of religions also offer stability, the social obligations, the feeling of helping another human. Ralph: The community fellowship. Charity: A community unto its own self. Ralph: In early America, the church was the major social meeting center. Charity: And that is still the way it operates now, but, as you have noticed, the hope is that there is a shift from what used to be a very somber service, with the music very subdued, and there was not any encouragement to bring forth new ideas. Ralph: Very traditional; everything had to be centuries old. Charity: But now with the generational shift, the religions, the churches, the buildings, are coming about with new music, new ways of experiencing different items, different ideas. They are encouraging thinking. They are encouraging questions. By doing that, the religions themselves are realizing they need to get away from the traditional aspects. Ralph: One of the things that goes against this, with the Catholic Church being a prime example, is that they consider these cultural changes to be mere fads and temporary distortions, whereas they are the boat – they have the keel, and they have the steady center of life. So they must maintain those ancient traditions because these things are just temporary changes that are not going to last. They are the ones who will last; therefore they must maintain the stability in our culture. Charity: Again, on the avenue of religion, religion, as we have stated, is a place for social gathering. To have, as you humans would say, it feeding yourselves, find what is missing, but the most difficult aspect of that is that the masses can be fooled. You have a lot of immature Essences there that are bringing their charges to the avenues, or their charges have totally not believed that they have anything in themselves. They feel lost. The ministers have what is known as a control issue that they have not gotten past. By being a minister speaking to the masses, you are thereby behind some very important decoration to deliver a message. The message that you deliver, the human should also be living. But the ministers are not living it; therefore the religions are being tested. Basically that is what is happening. By the ministers being put in the institutions where you have worked, proves the avenue that the minsters are a control issue, and the religions suffer, and the humans therefore ask more questions, and become even more lost. Ralph: Because they operate on the principle that you shouldn't ask questions. You should take everything they say by faith. Because they can't prove anything scientifically in religion anyhow, everything is, “Yes, sir, we accept everything you say because we believe you just by faith.” Charity: Just as you had stated just now, with Becky's charge [Marie], you had basically stated the same avenue with herself and her biological mother. She believed also. It did not work. [This relates to the fact that Marie lived with her mother and trusted Mother to be fair to her. But Mother stole Marie's credit cards from their mail and maxed them out for gambling money.] Ralph: You are tying that into this? I lost the connection there. Charity: How? Ralph: I was just wondering about this with her, as it happens all the time, why people will tend to give money or trust to relatives because they are relatives, not because they have proven their ability to handle money. Charity: Just the same avenue with that – the humans are trusting the ministers, also. Ralph: I think we also have that in the False Memory Syndrome situation, with the trusting of the therapist. We have heard a great deal, “Well, they're the expert; therefore they should know everything.” People who believe that are very gullible and foolish. Charity: Yes, it is. Ralph: They have no way of knowing. Charity: Just as the ministers are of the same avenue, the religions are using that as a monetary gain for the ministers who are delivering the messages the humans want to hear, to gather all monetary value so they can take it a way from the humans. Ralph: I watched that with my father, because he had no other source of income with which to pay for our groceries, housing, and such. Some of the little churches permit the minster to work at another job and earn his money there. They are part-timers, and that seems to work out. But it is a major problem if the minister's whole source of income is in making appeals to the members of his church, whether it is on TV or in the building, and he is phrasing it all as, “You need to donate for the glory of God and his mission.” But 90% of that money is his salary. My dad felt like a hypocrite doing that, and I can see why. But what else does he have to feed his children? That makes for a major problem. These churches do provide the public with hospitals, schools, and such like that. Charity: But by supplying those avenues, they are teaching to bring about more belief systems. As to the schools that you just stated, the humans go to schools. Not only do they learn the normal subjects that all humans learn, they are also then indoctrinated into the belief system of that religion. Ralph: At least they try to, yes. Charity: And they are successful. Ralph: At an older age, they are not successful. In those of younger age, they are. Charity: Correct. Ralph: The colleges are not going to be very effective. My wife had that when she was sent to a Catholic boarding school. It wasn't a boarding school for her but a high school, but they tried very hard to convert her into Catholicism, and she had to resist it all the way. That's what they felt was their duty. Charity: So you can see that it is important to grow spiritually but not religiouswise. Religion is just a set of believing in other things of other humans to deliver something that is missing. But if you listen to your Essence, you can therefore grow spiritually. You don't need another religion to tell you what to do. Correct? Ralph: I'm not going to debate that point. I'm just looking at it from the point of view that people are built with certain needs to fulfill. Charity: Of course. Ralph: One being sociable, one being sexual, one being control. These are all needs we are built with. Charity: Correct. Ralph: The churches obviously have existed because they supply ways to deal with some of those needs. Otherwise they wouldn't have stuck around. Charity: Correct. Ralph: So I am thinking that if everybody was able to recognize their own Essence and was getting their belief system through that, their directions of what to do through that, they still have to meet these social needs. Charity: Yes. So you build buildings or you go to the churches for that avenue. You can be around your friends. We do not need a set of belief systems and someone, an interpreter, who will tell you how you need to live, as your Essence is telling you about that. Ralph: When I was in Sweden in 1977, they had very big churches there. The churches were all Lutheran Churches, as that is a state religion. When I was there, I found that very few Swedes had any belief in God. They had no attendance at the church. Churches existed because the state used them to keep track of births, marriages, and deaths. The ministers were conducting the ceremonies and keeping the records, and therefore they were state employees. So they got their income from state salaries to keep records. But there were these big buildings that had been very busy in older days as churches, but nobody was coming to Sunday worship services except a few old people. But now they were using them for concerts and big musical ceremonies that young people wanted to go to, events that had nothing to do with religion. They were using those church building as big auditoriums. That was because there was no belief that there was any god of any sort. Now I don't know what has happened to the Swedes in the meantime, but they were saying, intellectually, there is no such thing as God, everything is material. There is nothing immaterial, and God is immaterial; if it doesn't exist here, it doesn't exist. I think we are not getting a resurgence of interest in religions because it does accept the immaterial as a reality. Charity: But the religions also exclude humans. Correct? Ralph: I don't know what you mean. Which humans under what conditions? Charity: If humans are not married to an opposite gender? Ralph: Oh, many churches would be very unhappy about that, yes. Charity: And they have been excluded, have they not? Ralph: And we have religions that say that life is more sacred than anything else, and that is the carcass' life. Charity: Then we have a question for you on that avenue. If the religions are valid, they talk about the avenue that, when you cease to exist, you will go up and be with The Creator, correct? And that you will be happy and joyous. Ralph: I'll have wings like an angel. Charity: And everything will be wonderful, correct? Ralph: Yes. Charity: They why is it that religions also want to make the existence go longer before you can achieve that part of it, that the religions offer? Ralph: I honestly can't answer you on that. You are quite right. It is an illogical process. Charity: Yes, it is. Ralph: At the same time, however, you have the religions stating that they are the groups that value life more than, shall we say, the government that executes people and has armies to shoot people, and therefore doesn't value life. Charity: But then, as we state, they are exalting themselves. Ralph: Sounds like it. Many people don't, at this point, accept what might be called the soul or Essence or anything that is going to continue after bodily life disappears. Can somebody prove there is life after death? Charity: But there have been humans that have ceased to exist and then came back, have there not? You have many books on that avenue. Ralph: We have had people that have had near-death experiences. But some people, like Marie's son, say it is just neurological interference and really doesn't happen. [Now we switch subjects to why the CIE never wish to be worshiped by humans.] Ralph: We go to church to worship the gods the leaders list for us to worship. Right? Charity: Yes. Ralph: What was the purpose of the rural chapel in America but to provide a place for the community in the frontier town to worship their God? Now, in other places and times, the CIE were seen as lesser gods, multiple gods such as Zeus and Jupiter, and the local humans came to worship them. I understand that that is what you object to. Charity: We are not human. Therefore do not worship ourselves. The Creator is the One that you should worship. You do not worship ourselves. We are there to deliver and orchestrate what The Creator deems. Ralph: Then let me throw in the Why question. Why is it so dangerous to us, and you stated it is, why would our culture go down the tubes, as we say, as others have, if we take on the habit of worshiping the CIE as the Great Powers? Charity: We are not the Great Powers. Ralph: But look at all the things you do. Charity: We do our jobs. Ralph: It's like the definition of what is supernatural. We went through that once with Marie, remember? It all depends on where you are at the beginning. What's “super” is what you don't know about. Charity: We do not need to be praised for our avenue of doing our responsibilities. It is our responsibilities. You, as a human, see it as an act of specialism. We are not special. We are doing The Creator's bidding the way it needs to be done. The Creator chooses to tell ourselves, “Thank you.” Ralph: So you do get recognized. This is like a business. Charity: On the recognition aspect, we are not human. We do not have feelings. Ralph: You don't need the recognition. Charity: We do our job. The Creator creates; we carry through. Ralph: A lot of humans, as you are well aware, don't do their jobs unless they are given an emotional praise for being valuable people. Then they are more likely to do their jobs. Charity: That is a human emotion. Again you humans want to put onto ourselves human emotions. Ralph: You have to admit it is a moral issue. Charity: We are not human; we do not need a pat on the back. We are energy. You cannot pat energy, you cannot hold energy, you cannot say “thank you” to energy. Ralph: You may not need any pats on the back. Charity: We do not want it. Ralph: You may not want it, you may not need it, but why is it dangerous to humans if they give it? That is different. Charity: By revering and thanking us, you are having us become as humans. That is a pitfall, as you humans would state. We are not human; do not humanize us. Ralph: Why can't you just ignore it and leave those people to be? Charity: We can and we do. The process is if it becomes a worshiping aspect of ourselves, then we cannot ignore it. Ralph: It is certainly an inherent part of every religion that the parishioners worship whatever god they might see as deserving to be worshiped. Charity: But they have gods which are human. They have made them with human characteristics, have they not? Ralph: That's the way it sounds, yes. Charity: This God that you humans have, you have made it to have human characteristics, correct? Ralph: They name it as Lord and Master, which indicate human relationships. Charity: A human characteristic is God, therefore it is important. The Creator is perfect. The Creator has no human characteristics. The Creator is not human. The Creator is energy. Ralph: Intelligent energy at that. Charity: Yes. Ralph: Which equals consciousness. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Which each of us have a little biddy piece of. Charity: Yes, very minute. Ralph: But it is still the same stuff, as we said. Charity: Yes. To put The Creator on the same physical plane as yourself is an injustice. Ralph: What about those individuals who worship Christ? That is certainly a very common attitude. Charity: It is a common part of the religion in this part of your globe. We understand that, but it is still the same aspect. The Great Teacher, any part of the Great Teacher, is not a worship aspect. Ralph: So Jesus Christ is not a worshipful subject either. Charity: No. He had a human body. Why worship a human who had a human body? Ralph: Well, I think it is that they consider him to be a Son of God and therefore something specially related to God, but they are not. I see this as worshipful. Charity: The thing we state is The Creator is energy. Why would The Creator cease to exit and need to make a son for a replacement? Ralph: Well, I don't think anybody considers him a replacement. There are three parts of what they call the Trinity – God, Son, and the Holy Ghost. Charity: What is the Holy Ghost? Ralph: That is you folks. Charity: We are not a ghost. Ralph: Well, you told me once that you would be considered that. Charity: We are not holy. Ralph: What they were looking at, and I could say the CIE would fit into that, is the power that accomplishes miracles. Charity: The CIE are a Trinity – the Guardian, the Teacher, the Professor. The Creator is here, we are here. The Creator tells us what to do. We are given free reign to do it. Ralph: You can do it in any way you need to. But I say that all of your abilities make what we call miracles, as they are not in Physicalspace following the rules. That is what humans are going to admire and praise as that is something that is going to strike them dumb. It is supernatural and seen as a great danger. Therefore we must worship them and appease them, so they won't strike us dead. Charity: Correct. Ralph: That would be the reason why admiration and praise would be done. Charity: There is the avenue, we will not destroy humans. Ralph: But that's the fear. Charity: It is a fear, but fear is the controlling aspect. Therefore by giving ourselves physical characteristics, it brings ourselves down to your plane. Ralph: But it makes these frightened people more able to defend themselves against the power that you have. Charity: Of course. Ralph: It is the power that is destructive; any human with power is in a position to destroy somebody else. Charity: Correct. Ralph: We love power. Charity: But we do not destroy. Ralph: They do not know that. They don't realize that you are the pure pacifist. Charity: Pacifist? Ralph: You like peace and quiet. You don't like war for the sake of war, because it is exciting. Charity: Yes. Ralph: You may use something exciting for the purpose of teaching humans. Charity: Correct. Ralph: But you don't need it just for the purpose of entertaining yourselves. Charity: No. Ralph: That is a human characteristic, to entertain yourselves. Charity: We don't need entertainment. We are most busy with our humans. You could state that humans might call ourselves puppet masters who pull strings. Ralph: Puppeteers. Charity: Pull strings. Ralph: Puppeteers is the term, those who manage puppets. Charity: Manipulators. Ralph: Yes.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Some Catholic Beliefs

During my conversations with Charity, my Spiritual Professor CIE, in 1995, I asked her about some of the old and present views of the Roman Catholic Church. Remember, I was raised in the home of a Presbyterian minister, so I was not directly exposed to these beliefs myself. I am expressing to her the views which I gathered in my lifetime as to what the Catholic Church believed to be true, both in the past and currently. The topics covered here are baptism, prostitution, contraception, indulgences, sainthood, man as center of the universe, and traditions. Ralph: I have attended only one infant baptism in a Catholic church and, in that baptism, the priest clearly said that their understanding of the baptism was that, by sprinkling water on the infant's head and performing the ritual, the Spirit of God came into that child. Now that doesn't sound like anything you have indicated happens with that ritual. Do you have any conception of what that ritual does accomplish, because I didn't see any difference before and after in regard to the child. He don't look or act any differently. Charity: Do you want it in regards to the children, or in regards to the adults? Ralph: This is a Catholic view. Charity: From the Catholic view of that, they consider, if we understand it correctly, with a very young child, of less than six weeks, they consider that child has been deposited on this earth as something that has been wrong from the very start. Therefore it must be made perfect. By being perfected is to baptize that child unto a new existence and a new way of being viewed into the custom of the church. Ralph: I have a hard time in understanding how a newborn baby could be imperfect. Charity: It cannot be. We don't sanction this. Ralph: It always seemed illogical to me. What did the poor kid ever do? He was just lying there drinking his milk. Charity: He was born. Ralph: He was born, and he didn't have a chance. Even though he may have had free will, he didn't have much of an opportunity to exercise it. Adults were telling him what to do every day. Charity: That's correct. Ralph: What about these big ethical issues of the day. Prostitution you mentioned already, with women selling their sex for money, and you don't get all up in arms about it. I thought that would be something that you would think would be a generally poor use of their bodies. Charity: They are not hurting themselves. Why should we be concerned? Ralph: Because, again, they are violating one of the rules of God, as pronounced by the church. You are not supposed to have sex for any purpose but for having children. That is very clear in the Catholic Church, at least. You cannot even have fun. The Catholic Church would never approve of that -- you are not supposed to have fun that way. Charity: The Creator made the human being to have, as we understand, a drive, so how can you, as a human, keep that drive from not occupying you and not being used and discharged? Ralph: The Catholic Church has said, “You should stay away from all women and only live with men if you are a man.” That is what the priests do. I don't think that works out too well. Charity: So what we understand is that it is a rule of the Church or the religious function to put this onto human beings to make them perfect unto the sight of the Creator, correct? Ralph: Yes. The results are in the quotations in the book on The Origin of Satan, that the idea of being pure spiritually included castration, of all things, so they couldn't have sex or babies. They cut it off. That was supposed to make them even purer. Some of these great theologians did that. Charity: If that was supposed to have made them purer, then they would not have been born into a male or female species. Ralph: We only have those two choices. Charity: You have what we are. Ralph: Those are the only two choices we've got. Charity: Or they would not have been born; therefore no aspect of a human is perfect, nothing. Ralph: OK Charity: So why try to be something or attain something that is totally unobtainable? Ralph: Because that makes you like Christ. I think that would be the reason they would use. Charity: And Christ was supposed to have been the Son of The Creator? Ralph: Because he never had sex with anyone all his life. Charity: If the Creator had chosen to make a son, and first of all, if the Creator had a gender, and second of all, then the Creator is going to be male, correct? Ralph: That would be a logical extension of that concept. Charity: So why would The Creator make a son? [Here we go to a later part of the conversation about contraception.] Charity: What you have to remember is that the longer her Essence can keep her charge from becoming pregnant, it is better for ourselves. The human's physical body can only last for so long before it will be detrimental to that life that they were going to try to have. Ralph: We have a big argument on contraception, primarily supported by the Catholic Church. I can remember when I was delivering babies as a medical student, and we had this lady whose husband was a writer on a Catholic magazine. She had eight children by that time, and she was totally worn out. He was happy and healthy, but he didn't bear the children That poor woman. Charity: But it is beginning to come around or turn around for that religion because even though the Pope, even though he does not recognize that part of contraception, even though he cannot agree to that, the other countries or continents that have that religion are changing their avenue and not listening to the Pope, so they are changing on that kind of aspect. Not all of them, but they are turning. Ralph: What I understand is that people who were born into the Catholic religion find a ban on contraception and abortion and almost every kind of birth control method. Those who are born into it ignore it. They are wiser than that and say, “We are good Catholics, but that 20% we will ignore.” It's converts from another religion that feel they must believe everything, so they are the ones who are stuck. Charity: What happened, though, is that the human beings begin to use their intellect, and they can't abide with that part of it. Regarding abortion, abortion, as you state, is taking a life? Ralph: That is removing a fetus from the uterus between conception and three months later. Charity: So what the humans are stating on that aspect is that is life for them, correct? Ralph: They are saying that life starts at some early date within the uterus. The most radical state that life begins as soon as the egg and sperm get together and start multiplying. Charity: OK, we will answer this question forthright and straightforward. First of all, your human existence does not start at any other point except at that time when that new physical life has been born and takes its first breath. When it has taken its first breath, the Essence is received into it. Therefore it is a living being and is therefore alive. Even though the physical part of it can breathe or not breathe, but the heart can beat, it can move its limbs, it is still not alive until it has taken that first breath. [Here we go to another part of the conversation about indulgences.] Ralph: Now the Catholic Church at that time recognized that nobody behaved well all the time. So if you did something that wasn't quite up to snuff to go to heaven, they would let you pay money to the church and buy what they called an indulgence. Which meant the priest forgave you for your sin for your contribution. Charity: Monetary. Ralph: Right, a major source of income for the churches. Then they put you back on the track of going to heaven. Now, they were selling those indulgences in such volume that obviously only rich people could afford to do it continually, and that is one of the things Luther got very upset about, being a priest in the Catholic Church at the time. “This is wrong, we shouldn't do that. If you are fated to go on to heaven, you will go to heaven; you won't get there by paying indulgences to the priest.” Because what they were saying was that, if you do all the good things, that proves that you belong in heaven. So even if you were a nasty guy headed for hell, if you could fake it long enough and play the game of being a good guy, you could sneak your way into heaven. So what is it, is it your behavior during your life that gets you into heaven, or is it your core nature that you were bound for heaven regardless of what you did? That was a big issue for a long time Charity: Do you want us to answer that question? Ralph: I don't know that there is an answer from your department. You have to see that what develops then are do-gooders, as we say. By doing all these good things that our society rewards us for, we are going to earn our place in heaven. And I think you have to recognize that is the culture of the Western European, English and American. That's been going on for the last three or four centuries with that argument being made clearly. Martin Luther was the one who said, “Hey, you can't buy your way into heaven.” Now you are throwing a monkey wrench into that whole concept and saying they are both wrong. I know that, but you have to understand that is how we are raised in this culture, subtly. What do our politicians do to get elected? They say, “I got you this service, and I got you all these things, and I've protected this, and you've got protection from everything.” Charity: But that's all part of the Great Deception. You've got to realize this. Ralph: Now, which aspect? Charity: Your do-gooding aspect. First of all, your aspect of believing that there is a heaven and a hell, when there is no avenue on that aspect anyway. Ralph: OK, so there is no place to head for in the first place. Charity: That is correct. Ralph: We are all going to get to the same place regardless of how we behaved on earth. It isn't going to get you to Door A versus Door B. Charity: No, there are no doors. Ralph: But what I am saying is that the gate of heaven is described that way, with St. Peter standing there to grade you. Charity: Who is St. Peter? Ralph: St. Peter was Peter the disciple that was the first Bishop of the Christian Church, one of Christ's students. He then was, according to the Bible, given the responsibility for being the head of the church. Charity: No. Ralph: It's all in the book. Peter got the grant from Christ to be the leader when Christ died. Charity: No. Ralph: No? These are specially wonderful humans who, when they have died , are responsible for miracles. Charity: Like St. Jude? Ralph: Yes, St. Jude is for crippled children. Each has some particular group that they are for. They have in the Catholic Church a process for declaring somebody who has died a saint. Charity: Oh, yes we remember you sending something to us on that aspect quite some time ago. Ralph: The process is this: A nun who has been very nice and very holy dies of old age. She has been known by all her friends as a wonderful person. Charity: So she comes back in this lifetime and lives as a -- ? Ralph: As far as they re concerned, this is the only lifetime she ever had. The people who remember her consider her to have been a very holy person while she was alive. Nice, wonderful, religious and all that . They then pray to her spirit for some particular miracle to occur, like a child getting well from a serious illness, or something like that. Charity: Pray to her spirit? Ralph: Correct, pray to her spirit. Then this child gets well. They then give credit to her spirit for having gotten the child well, when the child would otherwise have died. I think it takes a certain number of these incidents witnessed by people to qualify a person for possible sainthood. If they prayed to the spirit of Jude three times and the children got well, therefore Jude performed these miracles, and he's worthy of becoming a saint. I'm serious. I know it sounds silly when I tell you. Charity: The aspect is the Spiritual Guardian that is doing this. Ralph: I know that, but they don't. So I'm just saying that the people who have seen these miracles then file an application with the Catholic Church. They ask for this person to be honored as such a wonderful person. Then the church appoints a priest to be an investigator, to make sure the people are telling the truth. The priest writes up the report, and they then have different stages of an investigation. If the deceased person passes all the tests, he is then honored by being named a saint. At one point they have a hearing with one priest who is assigned to be the Devil's Advocate. He says, “No, this was a really bad guy, and he didn't do any good at all.” They have the hearing and take a vote, and, if he passes, he is named a saint by the Pope. Then they put his name on buildings and hospitals, since he is now a saint. That's what saints are. I'm just telling you it's an official decision by the Pope after somebody's died. He is holier than average. Charity: The Creator is the whole, The Creator has always been the whole. Ralph: I'm just letting you know how they make saints. Charity: We disagree. Ralph: I understand that. I just wanted to explain. This is a human process within the organizational structure. Charity: Again it is a human process on rules and regulations that humans have evolved and defined. [Now I go to another part of the conversation on man as the center of the universe.] Charity: The Creator was here before to create Thoughtspace, the energy field that we have been in and reside in which has been here before physical properties were created. Ralph: Which leaves open the possibility that this universe of rocks floating around in our Physicalspace might not have been the first one. Charity: That is most correct. Ralph: So therefore it is not all important, it is not the most important. We almost gets back to an earlier idea that the Church had that man is the most important element in the entire universe. Charity: That is incorrect in that avenue. Human existence is one avenue. Ralph: A few centuries ago, the Catholic Church said that the physical man is somehow the center of the universe, at least the center of the world, and everything was related to the size of the man, to the Earth, which had nothing to do with anything. I'm just saying that they were making man as the center around which everything else was revolving. Now that is a lot of importance to put on man. Charity: That is what they were doing, and we are bringing it back to what it needs to be. The humans are important, yes, but the Creator and ourselves and the Essences are important, but they are not to be thought of or to be made human. Ralph: I think that one of the problems with humans is that they tend to rank importance. Charity: Of course. Ralph:That is another human emotion – I'm more important than you, or I feel badly not being as important as you. Charity: That is still the way it operates now, but, as you have noticed, the hope is there that there is a shift from what used to be very somber, the music very subdued; there was not any encouragement to bring forth new ideas. Ralph: Very traditional, everything had to be centuries old. Charity: But now with the generation shift, the religions, the churches, the buildings, are coming about with new music, new ways of experiencing different items, different ideas. They are encouraging thinking. They are encouraging questions. By doing that, the religions themselves are realizing they need to get away from the traditional aspects. Ralph: One of the things that goes against this, with the Catholic Church being a prime example, they consider these cultural changes to be mere fads and temporary distortions. They are like the boat; they have their keel and they have the steady center of life, and they must maintain that ancient tradition because these things are just temporary changes that are not going to last. They are the ones who will last; therefore they must maintain the stability in our culture.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Being Born Again

This discussion with Charity, my Spiritual Professor CIE, took place in 1995, when I was reading several books written by Fundamentalist Christian writers regarding their personal experiences of being “born again.” I do not remember who these writer were, so I cannot give proper attribution to their writings. I trust the reader can forgive me for that and focus on the topic they explained, what they went through in their minds. Then one can see what Charity thought better explained just how they experienced this emotional change in their lives. I was raised by a father who was a Presbyterian preacher who never mentioned this subject. In my case, he had me prepare to become a member of his church by going to classes and then, when I was old enough (12), saying the creed which allowed me to become a member of the organization. There was no big epiphany or emotional change in my own mind during all this process. Ralph: He writes regarding TRUTH, and being convicted of having wrong thoughts. It’s hard to know what wrong thoughts, feelings and behaviors are. Charity: Correct. Ralph: So he (Holy Spirit) is the one “who indwells me and aids my understanding of the will of the Heavenly Father as well as facilitating a more intimate relationship with God Incarnate Jesus Christ”. Charity: That is nonsense. Ralph: The “he” says, “It is Jesus Christ.” Charity: So which is it? We need a clarification of what he means by “indwells”. Ralph: Just taking that much, can you give me any clues of what he’s talking about? Charity: (Laughs) What he is quoting is that he was “born again”. That’s what he has been indoctrinated with. This is his “thoughtform” that has entered onto himself that has indoctrinated him unto the idea of what “the Scriptures” state. Ralph: Coming from his physical, live teacher? Charity: Correct. Ralph: Which is where it has to start in the first place. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Here’s where we got that. “It has been given to me upon my request to dwell within me many years ago.” So the writer was a person way past birth. Charity: That’s what we need to have him understand, that is “of Jesus Christ.” Again that is a part of the Great Teacher, down to any human. Ralph: All these people who tell me from the pulpit or from testimonials, that they have Jesus Christ living within them and guiding them everyday, are wrong? Charity: That’s correct. Ralph: Another sacred ox. Charity: What guides you is that heard Essence, your Essence, the one who has been taught by The Great Teacher also. ‘To dwell within me many years ago.” When he had “been born again”. Ralph: This says that they were evil up until that moment, and then they got the purity. Charity: Which is incorrect. Ralph: Now I’m just saying I always had a problem with that, since I didn’t feel I was born evil, and therefore I didn’t have a reason to be cleansed of my native evilness because I never felt I had it. Now that, of course, makes me peculiar, because then they say, “You must have because everybody is.” And I say, “No, no.” This writer indicated that it was something horrible and evil within him that he gave up. Charity: But it was nothing that was “horrible and evil”. It was the parents. Which is totally untrue. You are a perfect human being when you are born and the Essence is brought into you. You therefore have your choice of free will, from that point on, to listen to your Essence.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on God Testing Our Faith

When I spent some time talking to Charity, my Spiritual Professor CIE, about controversial topics in the Holy Bible, one was the idea of God testing our faith in Him, with us being prodded by Satan in the process. Here is what she said on that subject in 1995. Ralph: Does The Creator test our faith in God? That is a question that is repeatedly brought up. Charity: Well, first of all, The Creator is not human, so why would The Creator want to test? Ralph: I really hadn’t figured that out either. What would be gained by that? Charity: The Creator is not human. Ralph: You do have a story in the Bible of Job where this seems to be what was going on, and he was being tested. Charity: That is you humans’ book. Ralph: That’s right, and Satan was right there to prod Him on. Charity: Which we do not have.[Satan] Ralph: So therefore, without Satan there, He would not have done it anyhow. So it was a nice mythology. Charity: Of course. Ralph: And they said even great saints die of cancer. How could that be, if they are so great? With all the beliefs they have and the spirituality they have, they eventually die. Charity: Yes. Ralph: Their life plans say so. And each one thinks their standards came from God. But God keeps changing his mind every thirty years. Charity: The Creator does not change. Ralph: But that is the impression they have to have. Charity: But of course. And that is understandable. But by following these principles, you can see that The Creator does not change. The Creator is forever. The Creator does not care about social controls. Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D. at 3:57 PM No comments: Charity's Views on Homosexuality During my discussions of the Holy Bible with Charity, my Spiritual Professor CIE, during 1995, I tried to cover as many controversial topics as possible, to get her view, and that of The Creator, on those subjects. One of them was homosexuality. Here is what she said to me on that topic. Ralph: Now here they mention homosexuality. Charity: That is not a mental illness. You have been a homosexual in your prior lifetimes. Ralph: This we have a political battle about all the time, whether or not somebody is born homosexual or whether they become that way. Would you care to make any statement about why some people are innately attracted to a person of the same sex instead of the opposite sex? Charity: Each human has to experience all avenues of everything. The ones that are starting now or condemning the homosexuals will be homosexuals themselves. Ralph: This will be one of their lifetimes, whether they choose it or not? Charity: Of course. Ralph: Ten percent of the population are homosexual, if you add them up. In any culture, any group, any nation, about 10% prefer the same sex for their attraction. And they just happen to be the group who have problems? Charity: They don’t have a problem. Ralph, Well, we have the religious right who look in the Bible, and it clearly says there that man should not do that. God disapproves of that. It says so right there. Charity: Show me where it says that. Ralph: I’m not going to pull the Bible down because I’m not a religious writer, but I’ve heard it quoted, but you can find anything quoted there, too. Charity: We have already stated – Ralph: Men wrote it. Charity: Right. The Creator does not care. Ralph: In many books I have on Jesus’ teaching, people writing these manuals were writing to large groups, not to individuals, and in large groups, homosexual behavior does not keep children being produced, so that is not good for increasing the worker population. So they wouldn’t want that since you wouldn’t have enough children to do all the jobs you have in an expanding economy. So it’s not good for the group. But for that 10%, it’s true. Charity: It was written by man. Ralph: Written by man, OK. We don’t have a God up there that hates homosexuals, is that what you are saying? Charity: The Creator does not hate. Ralph: Well, you can hear all these people on TV talking about what He doesn’t want. Charity: It is what the humans want, and they use The Creator by stating that – they are always using Him. Ralph: They use him as a bully boy, somebody with a bat who is going to hit you if you don’t do what they want. Charity: Why would The Creator design some humans with homosexuality and some that are not? Some are gifted in music and some are not. Why did The Creator not design all humans to be the same? Ralph: Nobody’s figured that one out.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Sexism

This is another part of a long discussion I had, in 1995, with Charity, my teacher of spiritual matters, who was herself a Spiritual Professor CIE. She told me she had been assigned by The Creator to be the Project Manager for bringing to an end The Great Deception. So she discussed with me the many issues about which we humans had been deceived over the centuries, hoping I would help her disseminate a new set of principles which The Creator wanted us to understand and follow in the future. In the process, we read parts of the Holy Bible, which Charity referred to as a book written by humans. I countered that the passages we were reading were written by inspired bishops, so I had been taught to take them seriously. Here is one section of the discussion where we talk about the Bible’s teaching on the role of husbands and wives in a marriage. Ralph: We have this one. This is a good one. “I praise you because you always remember me and follow the teachings that I have handed on to you, but I want you to understand that Christ is supreme over every man, the husband is supreme over his wife, and God is supreme over Christ. So a man who prays or proclaims his message in public worship with his head covered praises Christ. And any woman who prays or proclaims God’s message in public worship with nothing on her head disgraces her husband and there is no difference between her and a woman whose head has been shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she might as well cut her hair. And since it is a shameful thing for a woman to shave her head, or cut her hair, she should cover her head. A man has no need to cover his head because he reflects the image and glory of God. A woman reflects the glory of man because man is not created from woman but woman from man.” [Note: This is 1 Corinthians 11:2-8, so it is not a quote of what Jesus Christ said, but from Paul.] Charity: We don’t understand. Ralph: This is what we call a sexist statement. Charity: It is putting down another human being. You should not put down another human being. Why would a part of The Great Teacher choose to put down another human being? Ralph: All I can say is that this is one of the documents that was declared proper to put in The Creator’s own book. And for your information, right now it is being used by certain groups to teach young men how to treat their wives. Charity: That way? Ralph: There is a movement right now I read about. Charity: They will destroy part of the human population by that kind of rule. Ralph: But they put this in Christ’s own words in her. In quotes, that makes it very powerful. How can they argue with it? Charity: Why would part of The Great Teacher ever say anything in the avenue of hate – that’s the best word we can think of – and put them on another species that The Creator created? And part of The Great Teacher is supposed to be the Son of The Creator. Why would The Creator deem for his Son to say those things to something the Creator has created? Ralph: I have no answer, of course. Charity: We could like to know why. Ralph: I’ve read those other books, also, and you commented that mankind decided originally to be male dominated. Well, this supports male domination. And in those days when this was existing, two thousand years ago, clearly women were not allowed to have any political rights; they were practically owned by their husbands. All of this I think you can see could well have been manufacture to support that, to keep everyone in their place. Then there would be peace in the land. Charity: But it does not keep peace in this generation, because the female of the species is rebelling against that oppression, so why are the humans trying to state the same thing and using oppression as a way of putting another species into a control mechanism? First of all, The Creator is not going to put a control mechanism on any other human. That is why the Essences have a difficult time most times to get their message across to the human population So if you can answer our question, please feel free to try. Ralph: You didn’t find me toting this around as a guide to my living, did you? I’m just pointing out that I think those explorations of the other gospels clearly indicate that Christ probably never said any of this. Charity: Of course not. Ralph: As a matter of fact, there is a whole group in California that meets together to decide what’s likely that he said and what he didn’t say. And this I don’t think would pass muster. But that kind of attitude of judging what Christ said or didn’t say is not accepted by these conservative religious people, because everything in there is equally true from their point of view. They have no other standard. You have another standard; they don’t. Charity: These humans, don’t they use their own thoughts, their own reasoning tools? Ralph: When you do, you become a heretic, and they kill you.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on God's Rules

We all frequently hear on TV statements by various clergymen quoting “God’s rules” of conduct for us human beings. They believe that God has delivered to them and their predecessors a list of very important rules we must follow to please God, or he just might visit some terrible punishment upon us. This has been mentioned in explaining both natural disasters, like floods and typhoons, and terrorist attacks, like the destruction of the Twin Trade Towers in NYC. Since Charity, the CIE who was my primary spiritual mentor, claimed to have first-hand discussions with The Creator on all aspects of her supervision of members of the human race, I asked her about The Creator’s attitude on such matters and the rules of conduct He expected us to follow. She had repeatedly told me “There are no rules in Thoughtspace.” By a “rule”, she meant a prohibition which would apply to all individuals for all time in all situations. Thoughtspace is the realm where there is no time or distance, and all communication is by thought. The residents, such at the CIE and Essences, have no bodies, and are incapable of having or expressing human emotions. They can have such states as bliss and watchfulness, and exhibit agape love to all others. This discussion with Charity took place in 1995. I had been reading various books by Biblical scholars at the time, but I don’t remember just which ones I was referring to in these discussions. Ralph: Why did the majority of the early Christians reject such writing as Thomas and accept other, possibly later accounts such as Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John? Thomas appeals to people engaged in spiritual transformation but it does not answer the practical questions of potential converts who lived in and near Jewish communities scattered throughout the cities of Palestine and the imperial provinces. New converts asked questions like these: “Do you want us to fast? How shall we pray? Shall we give alms? Are believers to follow traditional practices or not?” According to the Gospel of Thomas, when disciples asked the living Jesus these very questions, he refuses to give them specific directions, answering only, “Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are manifest in the sight of heaven.” According to Matthew and Luke, for example, Jesus specifically answers each one of these questions authoritatively and specifically, “When you pray, say ‘Our Father which are in Heaven,’ etc. ‘When you fast, wash your face. When you give alms, do so in secret.’” The rules are laid out. Charity: Right. Ralph: The rules of God are stated. Charity: Correct. Ralph: In only the four Gospels that were published, and not in the 30 others that were not. Charity: Correct. Ralph: As for the cultural laws, Mark says that Jesus proclaimed all foods clean. Furthermore, Thomas says that finding the Kingdom of God requires undergoing a solitary process of self-discovery, which I think you’ve been trying to encourage. Charity: Of course. Ralph: The Gospels of the New Testament offer a far simpler message. One attains to God, not by spiritual self knowledge, but by believing in Jesus, the Messiah. Now that God has sent salvation through Christ, repent, accept baptism and forgiveness of sins, join God’s people and receive salvation. That’s much simpler than doing any thinking, I know. Charity: How is that simpler? We don’t understand. Ralph: You follow somebody else’s rule. Charity: So, in other words, it turns into a cult system. Ralph: You said that, not me. I’m saying that, going back to her other work, it was a matter of the times, and there were the Gnostics who were saying, “Look up to your Essence and listen and pay attention since that is where you are getting all the answers.” Also, they could only deal with highly mature people. They could not deal with baby Essences. Obviously they were not ready for this. Now, when you are doing that, you are dealing with a small percentage of the total population. Like, with multiples, maybe 8% of the population can do that to begin with. A church can’t afford to operate on only 8% of the population. They need a lot more to pay the fees to run those churches and to fill up its congregational seats in the churches. So they, the bishops, decided that we must make it easier to get into our church. So all we need to do is say, “Everybody come in here, say this little ritual, dunk you head under water, be baptized, and you can be a member.” Now it’s a lot easier to get a lot of people that way than to expect them to learn anything while maturing. Charity: So, in other words, by believing in something that will take care of you humans for an eternity is a lot easier than trying to come to the realization yourself that you are what you are and you need to take care of yourself along with others. Is that not correct? Ralph: I’m pointing out that the Gnostics were interested in personal spiritual improvement. And they spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to do this, the same as I have. Charity: Of course you have. Ralph: But they became part of the whole worldwide body of Christ this way. Now, that’s quite an accomplishment for people who have been on the outs. Charity: Right, we understand that. Ralph: So that was a very practical way to go. You’re not going to recruit into the church very many Gnostics because they are not going to listen to the bishop. Charity: Right. Ralph: They are of no use whatsoever in raising money to build a new chapel. Charity: OK, we understand that. You understand how you can answer him? Ralph: Not really. [Now I go to a later part of the conversation.] Ralph: You have the Ten Commandments here which say, “God said, ‘Thou shalt not kill.’” Number One. Charity: The Creator did not make up the Ten Commandments. Ralph: Really. I thought that was one of our guaranteed basic set of rules. Charity: No. Ralph: No? Well, we had better get back and explain the Ten Commandments, then. Moses came down with his tablets and they were written there and he said they were written by God, if I remember the story correctly. Charity: You can remember the story. Ralph: That’s all I’ve got. Charity: It’s a story. Ralph: Can you enlighten me? Because that is the basic rule for our civilized Christian country. The Mohammedan countries use Mohammad’s rules. Charity: The Creator does not have rules. Ralph: That’s important. Let’s clarify that. How come the Ten Commandments are as solid a contribution from the divine powers of the world as we have in our history? You say it is not the way The Creator tells us to do or not to do. Charity: The Creator – there are no rules, as what you would define as rules. Ralph: Whoa! You made your blockbuster. Now would you elaborate on that? Charity: Elaborate on “no rules”? Ralph: Yes. We have the Ten Commandments that are definitely a set of rules that we are told came from The Creator. Charity: That you were told. Ralph: Yes, that is what I am saying. Charity: Where did the book come from that is telling you humans that this came from The Creator? Ralph: It was a tradition that was passed on for many eras, whoever wrote the books of the Old Testament that go way, way back. I can’t give you the author, obviously. Charity: In other words, it was a human. Ralph: It was a tradition that was passed on through many eras of the Hebrew culture. Charity: Which is another human line. Ralph: Obviously, we can only read books written by humans. Charity: So this is justified as a false word. It could either be a total falsehood, or it could be a rule that you humans needed to have at that time to make their lives justifiable with other cultures. In our lives, what you call a rule is not a rule. It is a fact. Ralph: Now we are getting to some basic accepted principles that you are calling into question. Rules of God is a basic issue of all religions. Charity: Can you quote the Ten Commandments to us? Ralph: Well, number one is “Thou shall not kill.” Charity: Which is correct. You cannot – there is no justification to ever destroy another Essence. Ralph: So I could easily say that rule is one of The Creator’s rules. Charity: It is not a rule. It is a fact. There are no rules in our realm. Ralph: Well, I don’t want to haggle over the meaning of words. But I have to represent the entire human race this way. We have a concept that is propounded to everyone everywhere, and I heard it last in that Jewish synagogue, that everybody must learn the rules of God, then when you’ve learned them, you must obey them all. Charity: There are no rules of The Creator. Ralph: You are going to make a major controversy with just that statement alone. Just to let you know, I am just pointing this out. This is another sacred cow down the tubes. I have to deal with these sacred cows. I just have to understand why you are saying this. OK? But that particular one, number one, thou shalt not kill, we consider a rule of God. That’s the way it’s labeled. Rule Number One. You say it is a principle to be followed. OK. Nobody had a justification for killing any other human in their lives. Charity: Any other Essence. Ralph: Well, I don’t have the right to kill Marie. Charity: No, you don’t. Ralph: Now, however, in our culture, everyone of those Ten Commandments seems to have a list of exceptions. And one on the list of exceptions, for example, is in wartime. You train people to go out and kill other people as soldiers. Charity: Correct. Ralph: On both sides. That’s a sample of an exception. Another exceptions is in self defense. If you are being assaulted by somebody who is sticking a knife in you, and you have a gun, you have the right to shoot him because he’s sticking a knife in you, and you’re defending your life. Very few people would argue about that. Charity: But the Essences already know what’s going to happen to them, so therefore it is not an exception to the rule. Ralph: That’s where it gets a little complicated. Charity: How does it get complicated? It is a very simple, straightforward aspect that we deal with. Ralph: I’m looking at my lesson to Marie regarding situational ethics versus legal ethics, where you get the problem. Charity: Right. Ralph: And a rule is part of the legal ethic. If you write out a rule, this implies there are no exceptions, and you can be punished by somebody who enforces those rules, if you break them. Charity: But there are no rules in our realm. Ralph: So you don’t need exceptions. Charity: There are no exceptions. Ralph: With no rules, you don’t need exceptions. Charity: Correct, because there are no rules. Ralph: You still have a principle to follow – the principle that the Essence must choose when this body is to die. Charity: Correct. They know when the body is going to cease to exist. Ralph: They know and they are the ones who would be unhappy if you put them on a life support system beyond the point that they would wish. Charity: Correct. Ralph: And that is where we are going overboard because, as a human doctor, if I don’t put someone on life support, I can be accused of killing them and violating the first commandment. Charity: But you are not. Ralph: Tell that to our lawyers. They will take my license away for that. Charity: You are following what the space in which we reside dictates. Ralph: As I told Marie, when I was on Emergency Room duty, my Essence knew that – all the doctors and nurses know that. It is the other folks telling us how to operate who get in the way. Charity: Correct. Ralph: If they would leave us alone, it wouldn’t be a problem. You don’t have people wanting people to die quickly. You are doing everything you can to maintain them, but you are not being foolish about it. You evaluate everything right there and you make judgments. There is nothing wrong with those judgments. The Essences are all there working together. I understand that. Unfortunately, lawyers don’t. Do lawyers have Essences? I’m not sure they do. Charity: We just told you. Ralph: I’m kidding, but it seems as if they have forgotten somehow that it’s in there somewhere, because they are not using those principles at all. Charity: We understand that. Ralph: Now I do understand a little bit. I remember the history of the Ten Commandments. They had a new city being build there, and there was chaos and disorder. Moses was their leader, and he says, “Behave, folks. Here’s our constitution for running this place. Don’t kill anybody. Don’t steal from people. Don’t go stealing their wives.” Charity: What are the other avenues of these Ten Commandments? You quoted one. Ralph: Thou shalt not steal is another one. Charity: Which means? Ralph: Don’t take something from somebody that they own. Don’t go steal his horse. Charity: Why should that be a commandment from The Creator? Ralph: I’m just telling you it’s listed there as Number Two. Charity: That does not exist. Ralph: If the man has a horse to get around and if you steal it, he can’t get around. That’s not right. Charity: But why should one human have something the other human does not have? Ralph: Well, if the other human wants a horse, he should earn the money to buy the horse. Or he should ask to borrow the horse. He shouldn’t go and sneak it out in the middle of the night without permission. Charity: What’s the difference between stealing per se and taking it without asking? Ralph: without permission. And therefore depriving him of something he rightfully owned in the first place. Charity: But still there is not a commandment per se or as a rule from The Creator in our realm. We don’t take something without asking. Why would it therefore be a rule of The Creator when The Creator knows what’s – we all have the same aspects as all in our space. Ralph: Excellent point. I’m just bringing it up as another reason why so many people get to California Men’s Colony and Avenal State Prisons, for stealing things. Charity: That does not equate. Ralph: That’s where we get the message that this is a no-no thing to do, and The Creator disapproves of it, so therefore we should pass laws against it. Charity: First of all, The Creator would not exercise that rule at all because The Creator knows what we have in Thoughtspace; we’re all the same for all of us. Therefore no rule would be passed or created by The Creator to make note of a human aspect. So that is not from The Creator. Ralph: Well, I think you can see it is a reasonable principle for a tribe of people setting up a little town. Charity: That would be a reasonable explanation for another human to put that as a rule, but then use it as stating, “It is not my rule,” but God’s or the Creator’s rule. That way he enforced why that rule was written down. Therefore, as you say, it is not The Creator’s rule. Ralph: I think you are quite logical about that. I’m just pointing out that was the second one that Moses brought down to his tribe from the mountain top where he said God gave it to him. Charity: That makes two of the Ten Commandments. What’s the third? Ralph: I don’t have the book here, but I do know others – thou shalt not covet other gods before me. Charity: Thou shalt not covet? Ralph: There shall be no other gods but me. Charity: The Creator does not care who or what you worship, as we have told you. Just so long as you feel comfortable in your aspect and you have your spiritual growth. The Creator does not care. Therefore, that is not another rule of The Creator. Ralph: Well, we have that rule as being proposed by everyone of those religious groups. We discussed this earlier that there were earlier times when the Romans and Greeks were worshiping a whole raft of gods. Jews, Hebrews, Israelites objected to that and said there is only one God and stop worshiping all these other Roman and Greek gods This would enforce that. Charity: What you are listing again is another rule that is brought down by a human that stated that you cannot do this, that there is just one thing that you can worship, and that is the only thing you can worship; that is not my law, but The Creator’s. Therefore The Creator would not have said that. Ralph: The Creator did not care if they worshiped Zeus, and those other gods the Romans had? Charity: Just as long as it helps your spiritual growth and you listen to your Essence. Ralph: Didn’t The Creator support this change over to the one God idea which is pretty general right now? Charity: No. Ralph: Didn’t that make a difference on how people behaved? Charity: No. The human population is still behaving the same way. Ralph: OK, it has not been an important factor in their improvement, which would hopefully happen, and you would want improvement over the decades. Charity: Well, of course. But anything that will make the humans feel more comfortable in their longing and finding a way of communicating with their Essence is fine with The Creator. The Creator does not worry about how you come about with spiritual understanding or with your communication with your Essence. Ralph: Whether or not it is something The Creator would have laid down is another issue. Charity: As we have said, The Creator created the human population. The Creator is not going to lay down these rules of conduct to the human population. All these are done by the human population to control the population. Ralph: Well, they’ve been used for that for a long time. Well, the next one beyond that is “Do not desire another man’s wife; do not desire his house, his land, his slaves, his cattle, his donkeys, or anything else that he owns.” Charity: OK. Ralph: That’s next to the “do not steal” – do not want them. So I would think you would have the same reasoning as the “do not steal” issue. You are not concerning yourself with owning these things. Charity: No, you humans are. Ralph: A good social rule. Charity: Of course, you are going through these somewhat fast. Ralph: I’m just trying to make sure we cover all the items, because these are all laid down as God’s rules of conduct and every church goes by these things in what they preach. And then they stand up there and make you feel guilty if you have failed to follow them all. And that is a major control mechanism in our culture. Charity: Again, it is a control feature that you humans have applied to other humans. Ralph: That's what it says. “These are the commandments that the Lord gave to all of you when you were gathered at the mountain when you spoke with a mighty voice from the fire and from the thick clouds. He gave us these commandments and no others.” No amendments allowed, I guess. “Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.” Charity: Is that not what – Ralph: There they were, written all out on the stone tablets. Charity: Why would The Creator want to write out something that He delegated to the human population on fixed rules? There are no rules in our realm. Why should the Creator choose to have rules for the human population? Why would He need to change the avenue of the way things are run? Ralph: I’m looking at the setting of this, you see. Because, “Moses give God’s laws and teachings to the people of Israel. It was after they had come out of Egypt and were in the valley east of the Jordan River, opposite of the town of Bethpore, that he gave them all these laws. This was in the territory that had belonged to King Shechan, and the Amorites, who had ruled in the town of Heshban. Moses and the people of Israel defeated him when they came out of Egypt. They occupied his land and the land of Kind Og of Basham, the other Amorite king who lived east of the Jordan.” So they came into this territory, conquered the people who lived there, and were setting up their own civilization. Charity: Why would The Creator want to destroy another population? Ralph: I have no answer to that. I just quoted what it said here in this holy book. That they defeated him and occupied the land, which I assume the armies got in battle, and the Israelites – Charity: Why do they quote this? Ralph: Because they have been told that The Creator practically hand wrote it. Charity: Why would The Creator want to write this book? Ralph: These were documents that were as true a version of the Israelites’ relationship to their God as existed. Charity: This is what the humans believe and go by and live with. It makes no sense. Ralph: You have two parts, the Old Testament before Christ was born and then the New Testament of Christ’s birth on after that. What do you see? Charity: (She reads and says “angels”) First of all, The Creator would not have angels because The Creator does not identify ourselves as that. Ralph: They are all over there. Charity: (reading the Bible) “but if I have no love, I am but a gong, however, I am a clanging bell.” Ralph: St. Paul. Charity: (reading the Bible) They are talking about Faith [the Spiritual Guardian CIE]. “All the faith to move mountains, so if I have no love, I am nothing.” What is he trying to do here? It sound to ourselves that he is – Ralph: The general principle is the conflict between God and Satan. Charity: (reading the Bible) “I may give away everything I have and even give up my body to be burned, but if I have no love, it does me no good.” Why would anyone want to do that? Ralph: I think we are talking about a formal religious sacrifice. Charity: (reading the Bible) “Love is patient and kind, it is not jealous, or conceited or proud. Love is not ill mannered, selfish or irritable. It doesn’t keep any records of wrongs. Love is not happy with evil, but is happy with truth. Love never gives up and its faith, hope and patience never fails.” This just sounds like – Ralph: Charity is the traditional phrase there: Faith, Hope and Charity. Charity: (reading the Bible) “Love is eternal, there are inspired messages, but they are temporary. You speak in strange tongues.” Ralph: What section is that? Charity: It looks like 1st Corinthians 13 & 14. “Faith, Hope and Love.” What kind of love are they talking about? This makes no sense. It sound like The Creator gives “speaking in strange tongues” (looking at the Bible) “Meanwhile these three remain, Faith, Hope and Love, and the greatest of these is Love.” Ralph: In the original one, it was Faith, Hope and Charity. Charity: Do humans go by this book all the time? Ralph: Not really. I’m just pointing out that those rules that you read there are the core ten rules of the whole religion. And you didn’t care much for nine of them. Not killing was the only one that you could fully agree that would have been written on the stones. Charity: Of course. Ralph: All the others were social control mechanisms a government should lay down for their people. Charity: Of course Ralph: And that’s what they have done. They take that and it becomes our criminal law. But all I can say is that the people who are Bible Toting Christians, they carry their Bible with them all the time, so they can look in a page and quote anything they want to support any idea they want to. Anywhere in here you can find a page that you can use to support any concept you want to. Charity: Why would you want to do that? Ralph: It’s a sacred book that you can’t argue with. Because God wrote it, we are told. Charity: The Creator would not like that. Ralph: Well, that is what all the churches teach all their members. I have to face that belief. My dad stuck pretty much to the New Testament, to things that Christ is quoted as having said. Though we have these other books here which indicate quite likely he didn’t, that many of these things were made up by the writers several hundred years later. Charity: Of course they were. Ralph: Again, as a use of Christ as the person saying things they wanted people to hear. Charity: It is part of the Great Deception, as we have explained.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Jesus Christ

Before I report what discussions I had about Jesus Christ with Charity, the CIE who was my Spiritual Professor and teacher, I must clarify a few terms she used. One is “The Great Teacher.” While I have covered that under my Course Manual on The Human Essence http://www.dissociation.com/2007/docReader.asp?url=/GreatTeacher.txt, I would like to repeat some of that here. In the process of reincarnation, certain individuals were asked by Charity to be her students, so that they could progress over many lifetimes to be the experts on their subjects of interest in their time and place. If they agreed, then they ended up being such an expert in their last incarnation. Charity reported that Jesus Christ had been one of those chosen individuals. This life we know about in Israel was his last incarnation, and he was then destined to not reincarnate as another human being. He would join the group of Personalities who had already become part of the “Think Tank in Thoughtspace” called The Great Teacher. Prior members were Plato and Aristotle, among many other leaders of their time and locality. Their Personalities had been upgraded to be like Essences, so they no longer needed bodies to function, and they gave advice to the CIE, such as Charity, based on their extensive knowledge of living on Earth in many incarnations. Charity also told me that the CIE supervising the Essence of Jesus were totally in charge of his body, therefore his speech and action, during the three years of his ministry, from age 30 to 33. They had to make sure he did not use his free will to deviate from the schedule and script which The Creator had laid out for him to follow. He was not allowed to make any mistakes, due to his own emotions, in what he was needed to do during those three years. However, there were no recording devices, such as tape recorders, video-recorders, or cameras to accurately record what he did and said during his ministry. Unlike today, there were no reporters on duty to listen to him and write daily reports of his sermons. Whatever he did do and say was perfect, and according to the Life Plan he was needed and expected to play at that time and place. The other term one must understand is “Free Will.” When Charity uses that term, she means making choices which deviate from one’s Life Plan, as laid out by The Creator. Free Will is used primarily by the emotional Personality of an individual and leads to talk and action which might upset others, or lead to actions which will hurt the individual or others. I often call it “Free Will To Mess Up,” as it will often lead to results that are not pleasant and orderly. The Creator designed it as a teaching device for us humans, as a trial and error method of teaching. Without making “mistakes,” we cannot learn very much. But this type of Free Will must not be confused with the political definition, which is freedom from domination by any government agency on what we can do or say. That has a positive connotation and could be construed as “obeying a Higher Power.” In that case, an individual exercising his free will to speak the truth in a politically sensitive situation might be following his Life Plan, and therefore not exercising his Free Will to Mess Up. Also, in this conversation, which took place in 1995, I quote some passages in the Bible, and also in books written by biblical scholars. I do not know exactly which books by which authors I was reading in those days, except for the reference to a female author. That one is Elaine Pagels, a biblical scholar at Princeton University. So I can’t give accurate references and hope the reader will forgive me. I would like readers to pay attention to the words which are quoted, as that is what Charity and I were discussing at the time. The one group I can be sure of were The Jesus Seminar group of scholars, who were located in Santa Rosa, California, when they wrote their books on what they thought Jesus really said and did. Robert W. Funk is the primary editor of those two books, “The Acts of Jesus: What Did Jesus Really Do?” and “The Five Gospels.” So now I will start reporting on that conversation with Charity about the life of Jesus, and it seems that I had read something from these biblical scholars’ works just mentioned. I believe that I implied that the CIE were operating in Jesus’ day through religious leaders. Charity: What you have quoted in terms of us as priests or pastors or reverends or bishops, the Pope, there was none of that. Our teaching was direct at that point in time, when part of The Great Teacher came down onto your Earth. Ralph: The one called Christus. Charity: The one that has been called Jesus Christ. Ralph: Known as Christus to the Romans, who claimed to be King of the Jews, which is why they executed him. Charity: At that time, humans had basically stopped listening to us. There was a movement on foot that our teaching was not giving the humans a free will to go about with what they needed to do. By bringing down part of The Great Teacher at that time was to have the humans realize that, with their free will, the world was not destined to survive because of the attitude of destruction, of hatred, of not following and listening to Essences, by doing their own free will. Before that time, when we were doing our aspect of teaching, and they were most cooperative, they enjoyed and were beginning to revere ourselves. We did not want that to happen. Ralph: That’s when we had all these gods to worship? Charity: That was what you humans had to have to – What we basically had to do, because of the reverence that they were showing unto ourselves, we had to take away that reverence and submit it into, as you would quote, the gods. They had the serpents; they had the Apollo, Mercury; they had Zeus, I think is another aspect. You had Aphrodite, as another. You had Diana. We gave them that part of it to take the reverence away from ourselves. We did not want that. That is not our teaching method. We are not to be revered, no matter what. We are not to be worshiped. That is not our responsibility. The Creator is to be worshiped. The Creator is to be revered. We are not. We are to carry His message. Ralph: But there was this conflict then between those groups who had this god of this and this god of that, and they had these gods living as human beings. Charity: Correct Ralph: The gods were mating, having children, coming down to earth, and breeding children who were half gods. Charity: That’s correct, because humans needed that aspect unto themselves to make the gods more personable unto themselves and brought them bodies they needed to have, to make themselves feel the same as The Creator would feel. That would be what you would call the beginning of The Deception. Ralph: The other conflict then was the Jews and the sect that became the Christians, which was not anywhere else in the world. Charity: No. Ralph: There is only one God. But the Jews had labeled this as a vengeful God that would punish people that didn’t obey His rules, and I have heard that in the Jewish temple since that time, which seems like a bad, hostile parent. Charity: Right. Ralph: It doesn’t match. And Christ said it’s a loving God that loves all of you even though you are a doing awful things. Which is a more positive thing which is what my father was teaching, as an improvement over the Jewish God. But there is still only one. Nobody debated that, and they would not have a god of this and a god of that and a god of the other. But then they also prided themselves on sacrificing themselves. Like Christ was killed, so if they were killed, they were like Christ, and you end up annihilating a large portion of the population that way, which is not a very productive way to proceed. Charity: No, it is not. Ralph: I couldn’t quite see why they were all laying themselves open for execution. Charity: What they saw in part of The Teacher was the aspect of a forgiving nature which most of the humans up until this time also did not have. They saw in The Teacher something that they wanted to have. Therefore that is why they were sacrificing themselves to be the same as what The Teacher was. We don’t care what kind of religion they care to worship, just as long as it does not indoctrinate or change the role of the human at that time. We chose for them not to be a follower of things and follow blindly. Ralph: Instead of listening to their own Essences, listening to the turned Essence of a cult leader. Charity: Most correct. [I will now skip to a latter part of the conversation.] Charity: The term “Jesus Christ” is part of The Great Teacher, OK? He’s not the son of God. Ralph: He said so. Charity: He may say so. Ralph: I’m just telling you they’ve got it quoted. Charity: In what book? Ralph: I can show you here [in the Bible]. Really, she went through this. If I can find that part. Because that was an issue. That was one of the battles. OK, it depends on which Gospel you’re reading. Charity: Again, it’s from the book you call Bible. Ralph: That’s correct, and what I am saying is – Charity: And it’s a man made concept. Ralph: Correct, that’s what she is pointing out here. You’ve got four different men writing four different books about the same general area and subject matter, written at different times from different perspectives, from different regions. Now when it comes to “the son of God” statement, here is one which is written in the Gospel of Thomas, which was not approved for the Bible, and where it is stated, “The kingdom of God symbolized a state of transformed state consciousness,” and not some physical place where Christ will be the legal ruler. Charity: Right. Ralph: Which is something he could not get over to his disciples. Charity: Correct Ralph: Nor to the Romans who executed him for saying, “I’m the King of the Jews.” Charity: Correct. Ralph: [Here is describe how each Gospel writer had a different view of just who Jesus was.] Charity: We have a question for you. If the Creator had created a son, why would he send His “son” down when he has ourselves to do His work? Ralph: I don’t know. Charity: The Creator is eternal. Therefore The Creator does not need to fashion a son to replace The Creator, because The Creator is forever. Ralph: When, that’s why I have been a bit confused. Here is the quote out of John which we hear, John 3:16-18. “God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Whoever believes in him is not condemned but whoever does not believe in him is condemned already because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten son of God.” Now that’s quoted over and over again. Charity: We are sorry, but again our question is: if The Creator is to live forever, why would he fashion a son to take over when The Creator is no more? Ralph: Which only lived 33 years. Charity: Right. Ralph: Well, now Thomas has a different message. Charity: Answer our question. Ralph: I don’t have an answer to it. I’m just saying we were talking about – Charity: That long statement that makes no sense. Ralph: There is a lot about human mother Mary and about what they had to – Thomas offers a different message. Far from regarding himself as the only begotten son of God, Jesus says to his disciples, “When you come to know yourselves, and discover the divine within you, then you will recognize that it is you who are the sons of the living father.” Charity: Correct. Ralph: “just like Jesus” Charity: Correct. Ralph: Now the Gospel of Philip was not approved for the Bible. Charity: Of course. Ralph: It makes the same point. One is to become, not a Christian, but a Christ. This I believe is a symbolic meaning, the writer says, attributing the Gospel of Thomas to Jesus’ twin brother. In effect, you, the reader, are the twin brother of Christ, when you recognize the divine within you. Then you will see, as Thomas does, that you and Jesus are, so to speak, identical twins. Charity: Correct. Ralph: Now that is something I can relate with. [Here I go to a later part of the discussion.] Ralph: Let me point out here and maybe you can clarify this one, as he mentions that “the angel of the Lord”, he is talking about Jesus “being given flesh in union with his human mother Mary and the spirit of the living God.” Now, here again, we have the immaculate conception idea. Charity: Is that the term, is that the one that they state that The Creator entered a human and created a baby? Ralph: That’s exactly what it says here. Charity: That is impossible. Ralph: Let me clue you in on the why of that one. That’s covered in here, too. The concern was that, again, that was a part of the terminology of the day, the translation. It is unclear whether or not Mary, mother of Christ, and Joseph, listed as his father, were married or not at the time of his birth. If they were married, there is no problem. But one translation of the word that they use for Mary, which was basically “young woman,” was as a “virgin”. She had not had sexual intercourse. And therefore, when she became pregnant, it was an illegitimate pregnancy. Now the writers could not support a person with an illegitimate pregnancy to be King of the Jews. Charity: Correct. Ralph: So they had to make a story that she was not illegitimately pregnant, she was pregnant by God. Joseph never had sexual intercourse with her. Therefore it was not an illegitimate pregnancy, because they weren’t married yet. It was a divine pregnancy. And I’m saying that’s the way they wanted to cover themselves in case the translators made this an unwed woman having a baby. Charity: First of all, that’s incorrect. Because The Creator cannot do that. Ralph: I didn’t think He needed to. If He wanted to make a baby, He could make a baby. It would be right there. Charity: The Creator has created everything. Why should He bother to create another human being when the human beings are creating themselves? Ralph: I’m just saying that this was the political cover of the possible illegitimacy of Christ. They were very concerned about his physical heritage. It’s like kings. You’ve got to be the son of a king and the grandson of a king to become a king. If he wasn’t the grandson of some great people, then he was not eligible. Charity: Right. Ralph: I don’t think there was any guarantee that Mary and Joseph were or were not married. Nobody know that. Charity: Right, but the term that we are stating here is that, first of all, The Creator does not need to do that. The Creator is not going to do that. If the Creator chose to make another human being, He would make another human being and place it onto the world. Ralph: He made the first ones, anyhow. Charity: Right, so why would The Creator bother to have a human carry a so-called seed of The Creator when The Creator has no gender basis anyway? Ralph: He wouldn’t have any sperm hanging around anywhere, either. Charity: The Creator has no body parts. Ralph: Right, He’s got nothing to contribute. Charity: So that’s our question. How can that be, when The Creator is not a gender based entity? Ralph: Well, let me ask you then bluntly, was Jesus the Christ the bona fide regular child of Mary and Joseph who were listed in the census as his parents? Born, just like I was with my parents? Charity: I don’t know if you are ready for this. Ralph: OK. That sounded like a simple question. Charity: It might blow your belief system away. Ralph: Look, I’ve already lost every belief system. Charity: Yes, it was their child. Pure and simple. It was their child. It was nobody else’s child but theirs. Ralph: They came to Bethlehem, and the child was born while on the trip. Charity: That’s the normal aspect. They were married; they had a baby. Ralph: They planned the whole thing? Charity: Right. Ralph: OK, because also, we talked about Essences having control of the pregnancies, so if there was no need for a baby, Mary’s Essence would have stopped the pregnancy. Charity: Right, that’s correct. But you have to remember that part of The Great Teacher had to be born and that was part of The Great Teacher. Ralph: And that was the last incarnation. He had been born many times before building up to this one, right? Charity: Yes.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Infant Baptism

I was raised as the son of a Presbyterian preacher and do not presume to be an expert in theology. But one time I discussed the meaning of infant baptism with Charity, my spiritual professor, and tried to clarify with her what it might mean to those involved. I had attended one Roman Catholic infant baptism, where the priest clearly said that their understanding of baptism was that by sprinkling water on the head of the child and performing that ritual, the Spirit of God would come into that child. I asked Charity what that ritual did accomplish, since I didn’t see any difference in the child afterwards, in contrast to the child before baptism. Charity: From the Catholic point of view, they consider that the child of less than six weeks of age had been deposited on this earth as something which was wrong from the very start. Therefore it must be made to be perfect. To perfect it is to baptize the child into a new existence and a new way of being viewed in the custom of the church. Ralph: I had a hard time understanding how a newborn baby could be imperfect. Charity: It cannot be. We don’t sanction this. Ralph: It always seemed illogical to me. What did the poor kid ever do? He was just lying there drinking his milk. Charity: He was born. Ralph: He was born and he didn’t have a chance. Even though he may have had free will, he didn’t have much of an opportunity to exercise it. Adults were telling him what to do every day. Charity: That’s correct. Ralph: In the Protestant church, they do not have that concept. It is the parents who are given instructions on how to raise the child in the religion, and it is neutral for the child. Charity: They have the choice for the adult later if they choose to be baptized. Ralph: To join the organization. Charity: And becoming baptized is their way of understanding that they have been born defective, but they do not realize it until they have reached a certain age. Then they come to realize it. Once they realize they were defective, they felt there was another avenue that could make them perfect. Ralph: Is this idea of being born defective part of The Great Deception? Charity: Yes. It is all the grand design from The Creator which is what we must emphasize to the humans – no human is born defective. There is no avenue of the word “evil” as that does not exist in our language at all. Because there is no evil in our realm [Thoughtspace].

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Adultery

To get Charity’s views on the importance of the Ten Commandments in our Holy Bible, I went through them, one by one, and she gave me information about how the CIE and The Creator thought of each one of them. According to my understanding, they were sent by God, through Moses, to the Israelites who were leaving Egypt for Israel. I am no Biblical scholar, so all I could use was what I had gathered as the son of a Presbyterian preacher in my day-by-day living experiences. Here is a sample of one of my discussions with Charity on one of those commandments. Ralph: One of the Ten Commandments is “You shall not commit adultery”. Charity: What is adultery? This was surprising to me, to have Charity not know the meaning of adultery! I explained that it is when a married person has sexual intercourse with someone besides their mate, while they are still married to their mate. I also mentioned that this is the most clear cut definition, but some marital counselors include less intimate definitions as well, such as meeting and talking over meals, e-mail correspondence of personal problems, and other such personal interactions. Charity: Why would The Creator be concerned about the human’s personal life? The Creator wishes for you to listen to your Essence, grow and learn, so that when it comes time for you to move forward, you can. The Creator does not care about such personal behavior. If we understand this correctly, this is a moral judgment that the human population has set upon the human population. We don’t, in our realm [Thoughtspace] have bodies, so why would we be concerned about adultery? Why would we be concerned on that type of avenue? It makes no sense. I then disagreed, with the mention of someone we both knew who had been in and out of other men’s beds while married to her husband. I stated that such behavior was a moral sin, and in violation of this code. I felt it to be an important principle in our society. Thus it should be of concern to the CIE. Charity: The human population considers that as something that is not acceptable. Ralph: If you didn’t have something like that which people agreed upon, then families would be disintegrating and children would be having no parents at home. Charity: But families are disintegrating without that rule. Ralph: I’m not debating that people are not breaking this rule every single day, and have been for years. I’m just saying that it is still a good theoretical rule for a society to follow. Charity: Yes, for a society, yes. But in our realm, in our space, no. Ralph: It may not apply to you and your associates, correct, but aren’t you involved in what we do? Charity: Of course. Ralph: If we did adultery without limitation, your job would be a lot more difficult. Charity: How would it be more difficult? You don’t know what we do all the time. Ralph: Then you would have so many other people involved with strong emotional ties. Charity: Not necessarily. Ralph: You have to realize that in those days [of Moses’s time], they had no contraceptives, no birth control. So they would have babies who do not have parents taking responsibility for them. You would have babies without a family. I think that is an important issue here. Who’s going to raise them? Charity: The same ones who are raising them now. Ralph: That makes for a chaotic culture. Charity: For the human population, that is another rule that the population at that time laid down as “law”, stating it was from The Creator, and therefore humans have to follow it. It is a very good rule. But for ourselves, we are not going to dictate to the human population that they should not do that. What we are concerned about is the matter of destruction of the Essence. This is the major point which Charity made to me time and again. There are good rules which any organized society needs to follow for its own benefit. But these rules are not laid down by The Creator. They are laid down by the leaders of that community. In this case, Moses had a bunch of undisciplined Jews following him to a new homeland. Only he had been raised in the home of their leader, the Pharaoh of Egypt. Only he knew the rules of conduct in a civilized group of that time and place. He had to instill order in his group of misbehaving freed slaves. The best way to do that was to use their belief in a judgmental and punitive God on High who laid down the rules and could punish those who disobeyed them. So Moses, helped by the CIE, used their God as a bully boy to proclaim the rules of conduct, as he had no other way to do it. He didn’t have a constitution and bylaws to enforce, no police department to arrest miscreants, nor jails in which to incarcerate offenders. I continued to debate with Charity the CIE’s involvement in enforcing such human-made rules of conduct. Ralph: Since you are not in a position to act like a human as you are without a body, and you cannot have sexual activity, you can’t scratch your nose, you can’t put on shoes, OK, I understand that. But this commandment is for those people who do put on shoes, can scratch their noses and have sex. Now why wouldn’t it be proper for you CIE to do whatever you could to encourage humans to follow that kind of a rule? It would seem to be in their best interests to follow this kind of a rule. Why wouldn’t you want them to? Charity: When we don’t even know what the term “adultery” is, how can we expect to keep the human population from doing it? Ralph: I thought you had all those dictionaries stashed away there. You could look it up. Charity: We have some, we have lots. But some we deem not important enough to put into our database. Ralph: This fits into the area of sexual morality. Just because you don’t have any sexual activity, you don’t have any issues with it? Charity: Right. All humans have their Essences. Your Essence can choose to negate a pregnancy, stop it from ever happening. We don’t judge the human population. That is not our avenue. We try to make sure that the humans are listening to us and doing what they need to do for spiritual advancement. If adultery is not going to help the human advance, then of course we would be concerned. Ralph: And the Essence would be warning them not to do it? Charity: Yes. Ralph: But you would consider there would be times and situations where adultery would be spiritually improving? Charity: Correct. Ralph: In those conditions, you would not be warning them to stop? Charity: Correct. Ralph: That gets into the issue of rules versus a situational judgment of that person in that time and their place. And rules don’t allow for that. Charity: You have to remember that each human population, and each human in that population, is different in their spiritual development. So what we say for you, for instance, is entirely different from what it would be for another human. Ralph: I understand that. Charity: And we cannot blanket a response on this avenue by quoting a general rule because there is no general rule. Ralph: I understand your general principle, and I agree with you. But I’m trying to point out that it would seem to me an issue you would want to spread among human groups that they are not to hop in and out of other adult’s beds, get themselves shot by jealous husbands, or break up marriages. It would seem to me you would have an interest in stopping those kinds of destructive activities. Charity: The Essences control their charges. Ralph: So you don’t need any blanket condemnation like we have here. You wouldn’t take that tack anyhow. You pass the instructions down to the Essences on how to handle the individuals when they are tempted. Charity: Correct. This is about as clear an explanation of the point of view taken by the CIE, who inhabit Thoughtspace, where they have no emotion, no bodies, no sexual desires, and no rules. They are used to making decisions on the basis of the situational facts at the time, who is doing what with whom in what setting. Is it for their spiritual improvement or not? If not, the CIE can stop the action immediately. Certainly, there will be a karmic debt to pay if someone gets hurt in the process. But the CIE, and the Creator, according to Charity, do not have a blanket set of rules they expect all humans to abide by. Charity told me over and over again, “There are no rules in Thoughtspace.” All of the rules said by religious leaders to be from God were invented by the bishops of those religions, as a means for controlling the behavior of their parishioners. The Creator has His way of influencing each and every human by communicating at the moment to the CIE, who communicate to the Essence, who tries to influence the Personality in Physicalspace. The Creator and the CIE have the power to strike us dead on the spot, if they see no better option. They seldom do, but they can. Usually, they see the current problem situation as a teaching opportunity, a time for trial and error. If we don’t make any errors, we can’t learn anything. Elsewhere, I have written about the two ways of dealing with new problems. One way is the Situational Ethics Way. The other is the Legal Ethics Way. The Situational Ethics Way is what is always used by The Creator, the CIE and the Essences. They look at the current situation and try to figure out what is the best way to achieve a win/win solution. They ignore what happened yesterday to anyone involved, as now is now. Creativity is favored over tradition. In each human, this is the way of the Essence, as it does not involve emotions. Remember, the Essence is not capable of having or displaying any emotion. The Legal Ethics Way, however, is favored by the Personality, which does have emotions. The Personality feels much better to have a written rule to follow for each and every new situation. Churches are great for providing such lists of rules, as is the criminal law. In the military forces, they are the Rules of Engagement. We feel safe if we follow a rule, even if everyone suffers as a result. We are looking for a win/lose answer to the current problem, where we are the winner and our opponent is the loser. That makes us feel good, to exercise our power over those “bad guys” out there, who are evil and so different from us. We want “justice” even though it looks like “revenge” to the other guys.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Charity's Views on Abortion

During the 1990's I had many long discussions with the three CIE I knew, Faith, Hope and Charity, some of which I tape recorded. Here I wish to put down the concepts they endorsed on various controversial subjects. The first one is on abortion. Basically, the CIE do not approve of elective abortions being done on pregnant women. They say that each woman’s Essence is capable of taking care of what needs to happen with each pregnancy. The Essence decides when the woman is to become pregnant, by which mate, and with which sperm and egg. This is all part of fulfilling the Life Plan of both her and the potential child. However, not all pregnancies are destined to result in full term perfect babies. The mother may need to become pregnant, but is not deemed ready yet for motherhood. In that case, the CIE will not allow the infant’s Essence + Personality to enter the body on delivery. This is called a “stillborn” fetus. It is not caused by any physical defect in either mother or child, but the choice has been made by the mother’s Essence and the CIE that, in this case, the child is not meant to be born. When is a child a “person”? This is the great debate which is behind all the arguments about the mother’s right to choose to have an abortion. Charity has said, over and over again, that the Essence + Personality of the infant is implanted by the CIE into the infant at the moment after delivery when the child takes his/her first breath, not before. Before then, the mother’s Essence is fully capable of handling all the duties of an Essence for the fetus as well as for the mother. I have likened it to an automobile factory, where the robots in the factory are in charge of the car on the assembly line until it is completed and send out onto the parking lot outside the factory. Only then is a driver (the Essence) needed to operate the car. If an operator were to get into the car and start trying to operate it while it is still on the assembly line, there would be major problems for all concerned. The factory devices must be allowed to keep in charge of the car until it is complete and ready to roll on its own power. The big problem in society is that women do not believe that they have an Essence and, if they do, they do not have faith enough to let their Essence do its job. To trust that “the right thing will be done” while a young girl is pregnant is extremely difficult, and it is easier to turn the decision making over to someone else, like their frightened and ashamed mother or an abortion clinic staff. If all of the pregnant women had faith that what was best for them would happen, without surgical intervention, that would be ideal, in the view of the CIE, But such a state of affairs does not exist in our culture. The Essence is capable of producing a spontaneous miscarriage and terminating the pregnancy, and my medical school professors taught that 90% of fertilized eggs were spontaneously expelled anyhow. But our society does not have faith in the idea of Life Plans existing for all of us, so those infants who will be born should be born. In discussing this with Charity, she talked of those religions which support killing of doctors who do abortions. She said,“Some religions state if a human performs abortions, they are wrong and should be destroyed. There have been churches that state it is wrong to do that [perform abortions], and any human who does that should be destroyed. They use the quote from the book [Holy Bible] “Thou shalt not kill” as a justification for bringing about change.” I also discussed with Charity the various criteria doctors and others use for deciding when a fetus is a “person.” Charity said, "What they see is what the humans have decided to be the avenue of taking pictures inside the human female and seeing the heart beating.” This refers to believing that life begins when the heart can beat. Charity continued, “That is what the humans judge as life; they only see it as a physical sign. They do not know what happens to make the human a whole human. How do they think the human is when the soul comes in? When is it physically explained when the soul enters?” I explained that the union of egg and sperm is the original starting point for the fetus. Then at some point along the line development is sufficient, if the child were to be born, for it to be able to live outside the mother, to have its heart beat and to breathe. Many doctors would consider it a person when its development is such that it could live outside the mother. Charity said, “In other words, it is a physical carcass. It’s not a full individual if it is still inside a human being. They can see the physical symptoms, the physical parts, but they cannot understand what they cannot see – the energy level coming into the human being.”

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.

Spiritual Helpers

During a psychiatric practice of treating patients with MPD/DID, I discovered, when I started interviewing dissociated Essence (ISHs) of my multiple patients, that they are the individual spiritual helper we each have. The ISH gets its messages from on high, from its supervisors in Thoughtspace. The supervisors are like the three CIE I met – Faith, Hope and Charity. Faith is closest to the ISH, supervising 150 of them. She is called the Spiritual Guardian of the Essences. In angelology, she is the Guardian Angel. Above her is one like Hope, a Spiritual Teacher of the Guardians. Above her is one like Charity, a Spiritual Professor of the Teachers. Above her is what they all worship – The Creator. These three CIE are the CIE of the human race. There are also CIE of everything else in the universe, like the weather, the earth’s crust, viruses, bacteria, etc. They were created by The Creator to run the creation intelligently.

- Posted by Ralph B. Allison, M.D.